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Post by TXKajun » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:36 am

A little something for us to think about. Have you ever lost something you really really wanted back? Like your car keys or wallet? What did you do? Searched and searched and searched until, hopefully you found what you lost?

The subconscious mind is a powerful force. It really doesn't like to "lose" ANYTHING, including weight! It can, however, be a powerful ally in attemps to "manage your weight", "become lighter", "trim down", etc. So how bout we all try a bit of subconscious programming our weight management program by looking at it as a positive endeavor rather than a negative (losing something) endeavor? This works!

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Post by WAFlowers » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:39 am

yawn wrote:Bill....do you have a health center at your facility? You could weigh in there.
No, it would be a luxury we can't afford for only 75-80 employees. But maybe in shipping and receiving there's some means to weigh "big packages" that I could use.

OK, (edit to add this) ... I grabbed a mug and found some acceptable water to drink while I walked around. Back in Shipping and Receiving I found a massive scale that weighs up to 2000lbs in 2lb increments. It says I'm 230.

I swear, here and now before all in this forum, that it will never, ever read higher than that. In fact, it will never read 230 again for me!
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Post by lindas88 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:53 am

Any day is good for me Amy...Friday is a good day...
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Post by Barb (Seattle) » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:45 am

[quote="TXKajun"]A little something for us to think about. Have you ever lost something you really really wanted back? Like your car keys or wallet? What did you do? Searched and searched and searched until, hopefully you found what you lost?

The subconscious mind is a powerful force. It really doesn't like to "lose" ANYTHING, including weight! It can, however, be a powerful ally in attemps to "manage your weight", "become lighter", "trim down", etc. So how bout we all try a bit of subconscious programming our weight management program by looking at it as a positive endeavor rather than a negative (losing something) endeavor? This works!

And sign me up for the weekly reporting!

Keep using the CPAP, too! This therapy works!!!


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Post by Barb (Seattle) » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:47 am

WAFlowers wrote:
="yawn"

I swear, here and now before all in this forum, that it will never, ever read higher than that. In fact, it will never read 230 again for me!



YES!!!!!

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Post by TXKajun » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:23 am

Aw, man!!! Not quite 2 hours since my last post and darn if donuts didn't just arrive....and I've had 2 of em!! So much for instant resolutions!!! LOL

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Post by lindas88 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:49 am

TXKajun...don't feel bad...I had one too
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Post by WAFlowers » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:05 pm

TXKajun wrote:Aw, man!!! Not quite 2 hours since my last post and darn if donuts didn't just arrive....and I've had 2 of em!! So much for instant resolutions!!! LOL
Send them to me. By the time they get here they'll be to stale so I won't eat them and neither will you.
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Post by TXKajun » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:01 pm

Thanks, you two! Ya'll got me to smiling over my "slip". But I skipped lunch, so it all evens out, right?

On a bit more serious note, Sweetie and I signed up at a local gym last week, so we're going to do some calorie burning there. Sweetie started this morning and said "I found muscles I forgot I had!" I'm still recovering from some surgery about 2 months ago, so I'm just doing a bit of walking at the gym at work and doing some upper body work....curls, flies, bench presses....using fairly light weights.

Now, for the biggest secret in weight management :

Don't tell anybody!!

"Calories in - calories out = weight change" Pretty simple, no? But then most truths are simple and darn near self-evident.

This gives us several choices: decrease calories in, increase calories out, do a combination of both. One thing to keep in mind, though. If all we're doing is dieting (btw, notice what the first 3 letters of diet spells!!) then we're burning off about equal amounts of muscle and fat. Start some sort of workout program, either aerobic or weights, and you bump the fat burning portion up to about 85%-95% or better! Plus, if we do weight training, we're building muscle.....and that helps us burn calories more efficiently. Yah, I bet you're wondering "How does he know that? What are his qualifications?" As a matter of fact, I spent 3 years not so terribly long ago working as a fitness expert and personal trainer at an upscale gym in S. Texas. I'm a certified trainer from the National Institute of Preventive Medicine. Yep, I'm out of shape now, carrying about 20 lbs too much, and been basically a slug for 8 or 9 years, but the good thing about being this far out of shape is that it doesn't take hardly any time to see positive results!

Well, that's it for now. Let's get this weight managment program kicked off!! With our OSA under control, we should have the energy to do something!---ANYTHING is better than being so tired all I wanted to do was sleep!

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Post by Flower51 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:44 pm

Well TxK it was fun to read your post re the effect our words have on our results. I thought of that too several weeks ago and decided that when I post my results, I'd say something like "50 pounds gone for good!" It has been a boost to read those words instead of "I lost 50 pounds".

I changed my way of eating in Feb 2003 and then once again tweaked my plan in June 2005. SO...50 pounds "gone for good" and about another 56 left. I had a LONG stall of at least 6 months and then in June started seeing results again...almost half of the weight came off since June.

For me this is a way of life change, not a weight loss fix. A very different way of looking at things...this is for health reasons first, anything else is, dare I say it, icing on the cake. ACKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!! But seriously....being overweight since childhood and trying so many ways to lose weight through the years, unsuccessfully, it was a great relief to finally find what works for my postmenopausal body and formerly resistant to change body! I had wondered if anything would help so at the age of 53, this is a real answer to prayer. Terry

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:52 am

TXKajun writes:
But I skipped lunch, so it all evens out, right?
Worst thnking if you're trying to lose weight. Studies have shown that skipping meals is not the way. You should actually be eating five small meals a day to keep the metabolism burning.

First of all, hi to everyone. I don't know how I could have missed a thread like this until now, especially when this is a topic so near and dear to my heart of late. Yes, as Amy said, in eight weeks, I've lost 14 lbs. I'm very happy about that. Considering I felt 23-25 lbs. would be perfect, another 9 lbs. would really put me in my comfort zone. And from there, let any other lbs. come off when they're ready. I won't give up the new lifestyle, anyway, so what is supposed to come off will, I'm sure.

I grew up as a string bean, eating anything and everything in sight, not knowing what good eating habits were. Out late at night and made a Jack "N" the Box run for a few tacos before home to bed, or four bowls of Rice Crispies with tons of sugar added. Never gained an ounce...UNTIL I had kids and not only did my metabolism seem to slow down (which was amazing since I was running around like a lunatic now), but you end up finishing whatever they leave over and having no time when they're little to give to yourself at the gym or whatever, not to mention not a lot of extra energy.

Anyway, fast forward to lately. In order the lose what I've lost, not only did I have to eat correctly and more than I normally do, supplementing my meals with in between "snacks" like a slice of cheese or a cup of yogurt, but I had to add three days a week of cardio exercise to my "diet," plus a lot of water drinking. I had started on Slimfast, which I lost over 30 lbs. many years ago on after one of my kids was born. For some reason, now that I'm 48, it doesn't work. I get to a plateau and never pass it.

My son's girlfriend who graduates with her BS this Dec. is studying Nutrition. Her advice to me was to eat at least two servings of calcium a day. It has a real positive effect when trying to lose weight. So what I will do is eat a cup of Dannon Fruit on the Bottom yogurt for breakfast and sometimes lunch, too. If I don't have it for lunch, I have a piece of cheese as a snack. So there are my two calciums at least. During the day, it's wise to have something with you, even if it's cucumber slices or baby carrot (no fuss there) in a baggie to nibble on to keep the metabolism going and burning up calories. If you skip meals, you're putting your metabolism to sleep and it usually makes you even more ravenous when the next time to eat comes, at which time you may overeat to make up for the lost meal. By the way, when I finally got off the Slimfast, I got past the plateau this time of 8 lbs. and flew down to 14. I seem to be at a new one right now, but that's okay. I know it will suddenly start to go down again. You should never give up, too, when you hit that plateau because they happen and it will reverse and you will again lose. Don't lose faith and give up! And add plenty of water, water, water to your diet and cut out the drinks that are high in sugars. Saves you a lot of calories right there.

One last word of advice. NOTHING is taboo. If you want something, have it. Don't eat the entire box of Oreos, but one is fine to get over the strong desire to have it. If you don't indulge every now and then on something you REALLY, TRULY want, you will cause yourself the "forbidden fruit" syndrome and it will make you want it worse. Then when you finally get your hands on whatever it is, you will probably eat far too much of it.

Remember never to think, 'Oh, this isn't working" and give up. It takes time. The weight didn't go on overnight and it doesn't come off overnight, except in lucky Candy's case (if she was near me, I'd hit her...and I'm not a violent woman). It's like when we started on CPAP treatment. One night of wearing the mask didn't make up for all that sleep debt we needed to pay back, at least for most of us (Candy???). So this will take a bit of time, and work, too.

Count me in on this support group. I promise the following posts won't be this long. Just have a lot to say on the topic since it's been such a part of my life for the past two months. Also, Linda's idea about telling herself she only has 10 lbs. to lose is fantastic. Makes the goal so much more realistic. Great thinking.

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Post by lindas88 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:55 am

Another thing I used to do, whenever I had lost weight, was all week I would be really good, eat everything I'm suppose to eat...then I would pick a night to get weighed. After I got weighed, I would have my cheat time. Usually my husband and I would go for a nice supper and then I would have a small bag of chips and a chocolate bar ...then back to it again for another week. I always did well all week knowing I could have that cheat and eat anything I chose. It worked before so I will try that again.

Now I am off to go for a walk...I promised Amy I would do that.
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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:16 am

Now I am off to go for a walk...I promised Amy I would do that.
Linda, you are going to be one of the ones who does great. Keeping your word and your great ideas. I think that "cheat time" is a fantastic suggestion. You will never have to feel deprived if you have that to look forward to once a week, as long as you are disciplined enough not to allow every day have a "cheat time" in it and you don't cheat SO much that you ruin what you did for that whole day, although that probably wouldn't even matter.
My son had told me he heard in a college class that you should have one day a week where you eat bad things, such as McDonald's, so that your body doesn't get used to the "good" eating where the metabolism slows down again due to always eating that way. It could be, but I was afraid that that one bad day of eating would eliminate or undo some of the rest of the good I had done all week. So I've never tried that. It's a thought, though, kind of like "cheat time," only it's "cheat DAY."

I'd wish you luck, but I don't think you're going to need it. Aw, good luck anyway (it can't hurt...).
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Post by Flower51 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:58 am

Different strokes for different folks....

I cannot do the "no food is taboo" or "cheat time" way of eating and be successful. For whatever reason, insulin resistance or "?" when I eat things that are not on my food plan, I gain sometimes up to 5# in water weight (even from something I haven't overindulged in, but just ate a normal serving of) and then have to fight cravings as it seems to turn on an invisible switch and be a trigger food for eating things that aren't good for my health. Salty foods are in this category for me, as is dairy (I eat calcium rich veggies and because I'm postmenopausal take calciumD/magnesium) and most grains and "frankenfoods" that have artificial sweeteners in them. And it takes a long time to get those 5 pounds back off and go back to "square one" when I could have seen some improvement had I ate what is best for me.

I tried Slim Fast when I was younger and actually gained weight! Ditto on a strict vegitarian regime combining proteins like grains and beans. And I gained when I was doing an extended juice fast, I later figured out because I was juicing a lot of carrots, apples and pineapple...all high in sugar which I seem to have a problem with. Low in calories but high in sugar and MY body can't handle it.

So for me....simplicity is best and knowing what works and sticking w/it is best. Knowing I'm eating more healthfully than I ever have and seeing the results is a great incentive to keep on. For me eating that oreo does not make things easier. Everyone is different and each of us must know how our body reacts to what we feed it in order to be healthy. When I see those cholesterol and blood pressure numbers drop and my clothes being loose, THAT is more satisfying than an Oreo cookie could ever be.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:06 am

When I see those cholesterol and blood pressure numbers drop and my clothes being loose, THAT is more satisfying than an Oreo cookie could ever be.
Terry,

I happen to agree with you. I'm still at that stage, at two months into it, where I'd rather just avoid the fattening, unhealthy foods than give in to what might be my ruination. So far, snacking, for me, is like raw broccoli and a piece of cheese. I am too much right now enjoying watching the pants sizes lower and feeling and looking better. There is something to be said about eating well and exercising. It also raises your self-esteem when you stick to it and you see it working. I know many people think it's not important, but self-image is to me. I feel better when I feel I look better.

You are right, to each his own. If you can eat the one Oreo and it doesn't put five pounds on you or cause you to go on a total binge, or even stop the healthy eating, God bless you. Right now, I just have no interest in it. Rather keep doing well and healthy.

What foods do you eat? I am a huge grilled turkey burger and chicken person with a side of lettuce, tomato and mushrooms. I find, too, if I've had no carbs all day, I will eat the roll and it doesn't seem to matter one way or another. But I'm sure in your situation, you have to watch particular types of foods. What is a usual day like for you? Do you generally eat the same things every day or do you have a varying menu?
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