Got the AutoSet set to "auto" now

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:54 pm

Had the information downloaded today at the sleep center. She said it was apparent (I knew this already)LOL that the pressure wasn't high enough. They set it to auto from 8-16 (!!) yikes. I have a feeling that it won't go that high, but who knows I asked about all the high AHI numbers, and she said it's because it averages all of them. Hmm...I thought I was looking at the previous night's data, but maybe not *shrug* I look forward to finally feeling good in the next few days as I HOPE this machine can keep up with severe (70/hr) apnea...I've heard some things that make me wonder. Will be interesting to find out how well this works They also said the Leak number should be less than 0.04...I think that accounts for the exhaust port. Forgot to tell them how my hubby hates that thing that blows right on him LOL I have to say that I really think they spent a good amount of time with me explaining things...a refreshing change from my other sleep center

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sir_cumference · Post by **sir_cumference** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:13 am

Barb

So pleased to here that you have got the unit on auto now, I think you will find it makes a very big difference.

As for the data, if you go into the clinician menu, you can get data on AHI for the day, for the week and for the month! And I would expect your AHI to be kept well under control now the unit is on auto.

Don't worry to much about the leak rate, my OSA is under control and with the swift it often leaks at up to 0.12 or more! 0.04 is very good if you can get it.

Keep us posted!

sir_cumference

PS I've been to Seattle a few times as I use to work for a company in Redmond called Interpoint. I love Seattle - lovely place to live and very European in its weather patterns!

capt · Post by **capt** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:22 am

I think your AutoSpirit will easily provide you with the treatment you need. If the exhaust from your mask is bothering your husband I would try another mask. The Ultra Mirage HAS an exhaust port system that is the best that I have used. I have changed to an Activa, and it would be perfect if it had the same type of exhaust system as the Ultra Mirage. All the best!

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:06 am

Well, my numbers aren't much different for the AHI, and I'm puzzled. AHI 11.2. (it has been a lot higher, but I would think it would be close to nuthin' Apneas were only .6 which is good I do feel pretty good today, but will be able to tell more this afternoon. I went into the clinician's menu curious to see what pressure it went to last night, and can't find it...I'll try again European people live in the rain a lot, I take it?? (I've never been to Europe!) Yep, I loved the exhaust port on the Ultra Mirage FF mask, unfortunately, it leaks like a sieve LOL If I just didn't mouth breathe *sobs* I want an Activa...everyone keeps talking about it...yes, I tried chin straps...not sure I want to go back to that set-up LOL

I looked again, and all I can find is AHI HI and other info just for one day. I'll keep trying LOL Sure would like to know what the pressure was
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chrisp · Post by **chrisp** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:44 pm

It also gives a 6 month AHI... LOL... Good luck finding it
Try tape over your mouth. Also aise the lower pressure to reduce the HI

If that doesn't work out get a GK420E . Thats what I had to do. It travels much easier also. And when the power goes out just connect it to your battery or take it to your car and go to sleep.

:twis ted:

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:37 pm

chrisp wrote:It also gives a 6 month AHI... LOL... Good luck finding it
Try tape over your mouth. .]

aaahhhh..so, it's a game I will go push a certain sequence of buttons and experiement...I'll find it eventually LOLOL Seriously, I accessed the clinician menu..and it's blank *shrug* I know it's in there SOMEWHERE cause they downloaded stuff the other day from the middle of July LOL

Tried the tape route....and the chin strap route...and the ace bandage route - which worked the BEST! I just got tired of the congestion issues, and having huge strap marks on my face

I'mSewTired · Post by **I'mSewTired** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:10 pm

[quote="capt"]I think your AutoSpirit will easily provide you with the treatment you need. If the exhaust from your mask is bothering your husband I would try another mask. The Ultra Mirage HAS an exhaust port system that is the best that I have used. I have changed to an Activa, and it would be perfect if it had the same type of exhaust system as the Ultra Mirage. All the best!

I don't like the ultra mirage exhaust system! To each their own, and all that. I don't care for the way it blows up the tubing. I like the exhaust systems that blow straight out. With straight out the exhaust is less likely to hit me!

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:26 pm

My hubby will disagee with you as he's the recipient of all that air LOL

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:28 pm

The "least likely to hit ANYthing" exhaust that I've used has been the vent on the Aura. It's located just above the eyes and points straight up - like a little chimney up out of the way. I know it sounds like that would make the exhaust air hit hose, pillow, headboard, etc., but it doesn't. Well, maybe if I were six feet tall it might hit a headboard, but it seems to be diffused enough to not do that. Yeah, I've scooted up in the bed far enough to see if it would.

I can literally bury my face facedown into the pillow and the exhaust port is still clear. I can pull the bed covers up over front and back of my head, leaving just the top of my forehead uncovered - the exhaust is clear. Quite amazing.

I think WillSucceed feels that the way the Aura's exhaust port is designed...so far up and away from the nasal pillows part below...caused rainout in the nasal portion for him. "th" also had that problem, and I think has it somewhat with the Swift from time to time, even with the Aussie heated hose going. It's not done that to me...no moisture in Aura's tubes at all for me - guess I'm lucky.

I think it's the cleverest, best exhaust design of any interface I've used. It just doesn't hit anything no matter where I turn my head, where my head is on the pillow, where my arm is while side sleeping, or how much I pull the covers up. Doesn't hit a bed partner either. There's no sound at all from the Aura except when I inhale...the same shussshh inhale sound that I get from the Breeze.

sir_cumference · Post by **sir_cumference** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:30 am

If you turn the machine off, the daily data seems to go and get included in the weekly data, and I guess if you haven't done a week yet you won't see anything. SO, DON'T turn the machine off until you have looked at your data - that way you can see exactly what happened the night just passed.

Hope this helps.

sir_cumference (always one step behind)

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:58 pm

[quote=Rested Gal]It's not done that to me...no moisture in Aura's tubes at all for me - guess I'm lucky. [/quote]

Not just luck... your preference for a rather low humidifier setting also affects the rainout....

Is the Aura really not noisier than the Breeze? I might try it in the end...

O.

sir_cumference · Post by **sir_cumference** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:01 am

rested gal

It sounds like you and me have a very similar sleep preference! I just got my Aura today and noticed exactly what you wrote about.. the exhaust ports are really well designed and I also get the same sound on the aura that I get from the breeze on inhalation, and no exhaust noise.

I can also see why you modified the Aura. Unlike you I don't have much hair, and having tried the aura out I found it left a lot of marks on my head, so I can see it would cause problems wit hair lines. I was thinking though that by putting a thin cloth like under it might save that problem ... I guess it's a period of trial and error.

However, what I REALLY like about the aura is that you can push your nose down into the pillow and still have mask stability If I do that with the swift it moves and the seal breaks, and the strap lines become much worse, and if I do it with the breeze (which is in my opinion better than the swift) it can only take a little pressure before it also leaks. The aura on the other hand seems to thrive of that type of sleeping .. amazing!

Sorry to go on in this thread, I know its not about the aura - but I think if you are worried about exhaust ports and air hitting someone else, you would struggle to find anything as good as the aura.

sir_cumference (experimenting again)

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:01 am

Well, I'll be struggling to find something else that works Maybe the full face mask will have to go the way of all the other things I've tried...on auto, it's making a "phhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttt" noise that is keeping me awake. I think the pressure of 11 is causing this, it was 8 before the tech set it on auto. OK. I can't use a nasal mask because of congestion (I've tried medication, it just keeps me awake..I'm very sensitive to the effects of sudafed, I've also tried nasal irrigation with saline)Can't use the FF mask at this high pressure (the machine registers that It used 11.4 the night before).

Now what? IS there another full face mask? I just threw the mask off last night after about 20 minutes of that irritating noise....

dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT that I'm getting frustrated after EIGHT YEARS OF TRYING

sir_cumference · Post by **sir_cumference** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:10 am

How about ear plugs or a white noise generator? I agree noise can be a real trial!

sir_c

Barb (Seattle) · Post by **Barb (Seattle)** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:29 am

sir_cumference wrote:How about ear plugs or a white noise generator? I agree noise can be a real trial!

sir_c

I might try the earplugs, but the white noise generator would get me kicked out of the bedroom LOLOL I don't know...I think the noise means the mask is leaking...*shrug* I hope I can keep the mask on long enough to give the tech some information on Monday at the appointment. I'm to the point of giving up again...I'm so sick of this *gag*