Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:29 am

If using the cpap is such a burden, GET RID OF IT.
It is a medical device that will only work IF USED PROPERLY.
"Compliance" is basically a JOKE--just a number for insurance bean counters.
IT HAS ALMOST NO MEDICAL RELEVANCE.
If you are not here asking for help, other than to CHEAT,
please go away. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by Lucyhere » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:48 am

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:24 am
Admitting that you have a problem is the first step!
In your case great choice of words. No one is going to give you the answers you are looking for. Maybe someone in Iran (your choice of words) might, but not here. Again, carry on all you want, but you are wasting your time. Come back when you are all grown up and reread your posts. Maybe you'll understand then.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by aswayze » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:50 am

Who said anything about cheating?

and AGAIN, there is no insurance involved in this at all...

Look at the picture I posted, is 3.48 = to 4.0?

No...

Clearly there is an issue (and it has nothing to do with how I want to use my machine)

I really do not understand why it is you guys keep ascribing evil intent to the question I am asking.

If I was going to "cheat" I would build a big funny Dr Seuss machine with air operated valves, bellows and windshield wiper motors. I have no problem puffing at this thing for the appointed 4 hours, just not beyond that. The app was convenient since I could just refresh it and get a number instead of having to turn the machine off and on every time I want to check.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:55 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:42 am
I have to wonder if any of you think that your tactics have changed ANYONEs minds?
In order for anything anybody here says to have the effect of changing a mind...

There has to be a mind in the first place to change.

You're so deep in your sick delusion... there's nothing to work with.

I'd suggest talking to a different shrink, because the one you've got isn't helping you.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:58 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:24 am
You guys are starting to sound like my Aunt who is a substance abuse councilor and insists that everyone is an alcoholic. In particular those of us who do not drink alcohol.
You really should lay off the psychoactives.
aswayze wrote:
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Admitting that you have a problem is the first step!
If only you could take that first step.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:01 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:50 am
Look at the picture I posted, is 3.48 = to 4.0?
pebkac.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by aswayze » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:28 pm

So if you think 3.48 = 4.00 would you care to meet up and exchange some money? I will happily dig $348,000 out of my 401K to if you are willing to count that as equal to $400,000.

Not needing CPAP does not make you crazy. In fact, last time I checked the people with sleep apnea were supposed to be the ones with problems not those of us who do not have sleep apnea.

You literally think that differing times on separate devices both claiming to be medical grade doo dads is perfectly normal and the person who notices the inconsistency is the one with the problem? "Clock" is not exactly a hard thing to do in a program. Tell me again why I should trust a system that cannot get time values correctly?

I would say that your counter argument is comically weak. Perhaps you are short on sleep and not fully performing to your maximum potential?

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:04 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:28 pm
So if you think 3.48 = 4.00 would you care to meet up and exchange some money? I will happily dig $348,000 out of my 401K to if you are willing to count that as equal to $400,000.

Not needing CPAP does not make you crazy. In fact, last time I checked the people with sleep apnea were supposed to be the ones with problems not those of us who do not have sleep apnea.

You literally think that differing times on separate devices both claiming to be medical grade doo dads is perfectly normal and the person who notices the inconsistency is the one with the problem? "Clock" is not exactly a hard thing to do in a program. Tell me again why I should trust a system that cannot get time values correctly?

I would say that your counter argument is comically weak. Perhaps you are short on sleep and not fully performing to your maximum potential?
All I've said is that you're mentally deficient... you're the error in the system.

And I stand by that assertion.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by aswayze » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:13 pm

You are saying that 3.48 is the same as 4?

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by prodigyplace » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:19 pm

Compliance is using the mask WHILE SLEEPING.
Using the bask and THEN sleeping is in no way compliant CPAP usage definition for anybody other that you.

You are trying to cheat using the software, plain & simple!

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:58 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:13 pm
You are saying that 3.48 is the same as 4?
I'm saying you're the problem, unable to use the machine properly, unable to interpret what it says properly, unable to comprehend simple posts on a forum.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by aswayze » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:49 pm

I can see that you guys are confused by the term "compliance".

To make it simple, I will switch to the term "time accrued while the machine is on and I am wearing the mask"

I have NO COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT in the traditional sense.

As I have pointed out several times already, I do not have sleep apnea. The point of this entire exercise is learn what it would be like if I had sleep apnea.

So again, if there is no insurance company, no work requirement, and no //real// reporting then there is no cheating. Either way, if i have 4 hours of time, then I have 4 hours of time, I shouldn't have to keep going...

Now, back to the main issue that you guys keep ignoring.

App time and machine time are not being kept the same. Look at the picture I posted, it is clear as day. That is a bug in the system. Perhaps I am a bit picky about this sort of thing since in my line of work systemic failures cause large swaths of the planet to become uninhabitable but either way... YOU GUYS have sleep apnea, YOU have to live with things like this long term. If stuff like this is perfectly acceptable to you than I guess that is the standards of care you are willing to live with.

I did come up with a clever reason to like the CPAP if it makes you guys feel any better. I have been building some teak cabinets for the aft cabin of my boat that I need to finish sand tonight. Teak dust is a serious respiratory irritant and always causes me grief when I am doing any amount of sanding on it. With this handy CPAP machine tucked into a pillowcase I will be able to sand with impunity under the umbrella of protection provided by the positive pressure mask. Huzzah!

One more note. thank you to those of you who have sent me messages with ways to hack the data on the card, as I said before I am willing to do my "time accrued while the machine is on and I am wearing the mask" as I said, it's brief and the object lesson is, I feel, well worth it.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:56 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:49 pm
I can see that you guys are confused by the term "compliance".
We're not confused, look in the mirror.

Using terms incorrectly leads to your not being able to communicate effectively.
aswayze wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:49 pm
App time and machine time are not being kept the same. Look at the picture I posted, it is clear as day. That is a bug in the system. Perhaps I am a bit picky about this sort of thing since in my line of work systemic failures cause large swaths of the planet to become uninhabitable but either way...
I'll make it simple for you, in hopes you might be able to understand.

Nobody cares about your inability to properly comprehend what's going on...

And nobody who actually cares about improving their cpap experience gives a crap about that joke app anyway.

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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by Goofproof » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:01 pm

aswayze wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:52 pm
Ah, I see...

So I have offended you guys by not being a "believer"

It may surprise you to find out that there are a lot of nonbelievers out here.

Ask yourself this: when was the last time your Dr had to force compliance for an antibiotics prescription? Heck, we can't even get the crazy cat lady up the street to take her anti koo koo meds.

Yet for some reason now that there is plenty of money to be made, there is suddenly this terrible affliction that kills 400,000 people every 10 seconds and if someone does not buy and use this new gizmo then they are basically a murderer?

Ummm... how about no...

If you own a toaster and want to make Eggo waffles in it thats fine with me. I make toast in mine but I am nit going to try to get all high and mighty about it. Your machine, not my concern.

If you guys want to prioritiize sleeping with the CPAP thats fine by me. I do not need to sleep with it, I just need to wear it.
If you buy that toaster with your own hard earned money, not government money or INS that others have to subsidize, feel free to cook you toast in it however you please, you can even take a bath with it, not our problem.

I doubt pressurized air will make much of a difference, sounds like heavier drugs may be useful. If you want Sleep Apnea help, this is a good place to get it. If you want a sparring partner to down play XPAP treatment, you are in the wrong forum. Enjoy your toast, or not. Jim
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Re: Has anyone had issues with the Dream Mapper app correctly keeping compliance time?

Post by aswayze » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:10 pm

I completely understand what is going on. Simpletons are trying to talk down to me because they do not know the answer to a question and they prefer to default to screaming and name calling rather than having a civil discussion about an issue. I noticed that general trend on this forum backed up by an overall "You must respect so and so because they have been around for a long time". Reminds me of dealing with seniority at a previous job...

"You cannot say Bob is incompetent!" "He's been the most incompetent person around here for over 20 years!"

That said, now we are getting somewhere.

You could have said a long time ago that the app was crap and not to bother with it. Does that seem to be the consensus of opinion around here? You'll forgive me for not taking the word of Mr Name Cally as the gospel truth.

and YET AGAIN... I PAID FOR IT MYSELF....

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