AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by palerider » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:57 pm

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Many things make a person feel he sleeps better. But without NPSG documentation, it is just a feeling. Not saying one way or the other. Just saying that "it makes me sleep better" does not carry weight scientifically or anecdotally in the sleep-treatment community. Feeling that one is sleeping better and proving one's sleep is actually measurably better are two very, very different things.
Witness all the people that *think* they were sleeping "better" before cpap...

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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:59 pm

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. . . any kind of relief.
That pallet-of-twinkies thing sure sounded awfully tempting.
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:08 pm

palerider wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:57 pm
jnk... wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:52 am
Many things make a person feel he sleeps better. But without NPSG documentation, it is just a feeling. Not saying one way or the other. Just saying that "it makes me sleep better" does not carry weight scientifically or anecdotally in the sleep-treatment community. Feeling that one is sleeping better and proving one's sleep is actually measurably better are two very, very different things.
Witness all the people that *think* they were sleeping "better" before cpap...
One of them was I. (Stilted/pedantic pronoun choice out of fear of any spelling/grammar police who may be hovering undercover around here. :wink: ) I considered myself to have one great redeeming talent in life--sleeping. I could sleep anywhere at any time for as long as I wanted. I thought I was the king of sleep, and I was proud of myself for not having all the sleeping problems that everyone around me seemed to have.

Then I was put on PAP therapy. I couldn't sleep for longer than 90 minutes a night at first. My body had never experienced a full sleep cycle before, and it tried to be one-and-done with it every night, after the miraculous experience of uninterrupted REM. It took me weeks to be able to sleep a full night on PAP. If I had gone with my gut feeling, I would have wrongly concluded that I "sleep better" without using PAP. That would have been a life-ending conclusion on my part. Glad I was able to learn otherwise from sources of information such as posters here at cpaptalk.com. It's the education about sleep that seems to be lacking in how patients are just handed a contraption and told to try it 'to see if it helps.' It can appear to make things MUCH worse before it makes it all better.
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:44 pm

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They generally call it "choking on his own vomit" when apneas pull the stomach contents up into the lungs before a guy can wake up.

Thanks for the visual. And, right before lunch! :roll: :wink:
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by Goofproof » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:51 pm

jnk... wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:59 pm
chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 pm
. . . any kind of relief.
That pallet-of-twinkies thing sure sounded awfully tempting.
I have become addicted to Twinkies Chocolate Cakes, I went 73 years without them, but now I'm ruined. Jim

Keep your Pot! I want my mind to work while I enjoy my Twinkies Chocolate Cakes
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:06 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:44 pm
jnk... wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:48 am


They generally call it "choking on his own vomit" when apneas pull the stomach contents up into the lungs before a guy can wake up.

Thanks for the visual. And, right before lunch! :roll: :wink:
Hey. I'm always there fer ya. :D
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:15 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:51 pm

I have become addicted to Twinkies Chocolate Cakes, I went 73 years without them, but now I'm ruined. Jim

Keep your Pot! I want my mind to work while I enjoy my Twinkies Chocolate Cakes

I sincerely wish no one had ever invented these blasted deadly little things. Because they most certainly do NOT treat my OSA:


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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:57 pm

jnk... wrote:
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I sincerely wish no one had ever invented these blasted deadly little things. Because they most certainly do NOT treat my OSA:


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I haven't had a Twinkie anything since I was a teenager. Had they looked like the picture you posted, that may not have been the case. This looks like French bakery pastry to me, which I have the hardest time resisting. A fav... a Neapolitan made by hand, generally in a French bakery -- actually, most anything they bake in a French bakery. The Cheesecake Factory ain't all that bad either. 8)
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:15 pm

There used to be a French bakery downtown.
I always had the chocolate croissant.
A handful of mini dark chocolate chips was rolled up inside before baking.
Yum.

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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:43 pm

I can resist the fresh french bakery version. But if I see the mass produced packaged version in a grocery store somewhere (cream horn/twirl/twist), I have no choice but to drop my bag of vegetables and to turn and run screaming out of the grocery store to my car in order to have any chance of resisting those evil concoctions.
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Re: AASM - Position statement: Avoid using medical marijuana to treat sleep apnea

Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:59 pm

jnk... wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:43 pm
I can resist the fresh french bakery version. But if I see the mass produced packaged version in a grocery store somewhere (cream horn/twirl/twist), I have no choice but to drop my bag of vegetables and to turn and run screaming out of the grocery store to my car in order to have any chance of resisting those evil concoctions.
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