Husbands first night with device

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Husbands first night with device

Post by PuccasMom » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:15 am

It sounds like he’s drowning. That doesn’t seem right. He has a nose pillow with chin strap. Don’t ask me the precise model, its 2am. I don’t know right now. But some reassurance that he will need time getting adjusted so that he’s wearing it “right” etc... would help. Or maybe this is what it sounds like. I have no idea. Feeling anxious!! Is he getting the air??? How long did it take people to feel confident that its on right?

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by NightWatch23 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:47 am

Can you be more specific? Not many people know what drowning sounds like. I'm no expert, but I think most masks are designed to prevent drowning. I don't mean to be snarky, but it's late and I'm not sure how to say it better. I think they have special valves or something to keep folks from serious trouble.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by PuccasMom » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:15 am

Its ok. Gurgling sound. I’ve decided to put on a buddhist talk and try to fall alseep. I’ll see how he feels in the morning and try to see if whats happening is normal or if he needs to adjust something. Thanks for trying to help.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by RogerSC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:33 am

I suspect that this is pretty individual, that not everyone on cpap gurgles *smile*. My wife tells me that I make a gurgling sound occasionally that keeps her from getting back to sleep if she's already awake for some reason.This is with any of the TAP PAP or Swift FX or the AirFit P10 masks that I've used. And I've been using cpap for over 6 years now, so it wasn't just something that happened early on and then stopped. Or where I can simply adjust something and have it stop, I've tried. Seems likely that his using a full face mask would stop any gurgling noise (or attenuate it enough that it didn't bother you), assuming that it's a real problem that has to be fixed.

Don't forget about ear plugs as well, I was using them long before I started cpap to quiet down the noises that kept me awake...and still use them with cpap. My wife uses them occasionally as well, when she really needs a good night's sleep.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Julie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:20 am

If he's using the humidifier make sure the machine is located/set on a level lower than his head because the water will then run back to the machine instead of into the mask (except for the tiny bit he uses).

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Pugsy » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:29 am

Check the hose and mask for water in them this morning when he gets up.
Sounds like it might be condensation and there's ways to fix it. Depends on the machine so when you can figure out exactly what his equipment is we can trouble shoot and see what his options are.
It doesn't take much water in the mask or hose to cause a lot of racket.
Having the machine lower than the bed doesn't always helps much either. Depends on the mask and the hose connection to the machine.

Here's my generic discussion on condensation in the mask or hose...see posts #2 and #3 if there is moisture in the hose or mask
viewtopic/t94035/Pugsys-Pointers-3Deali ... -road.html

Just last weekend I had a small bit of water in my nose pillows. I slept through it but hubby didn't. :lol:

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by D.H. » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:55 am

I think that the other posters are correct. There is condensation (aka "rainout") in the hose.

Since you did not fill out the profile, I don't know which machine you're using using, or which humidifier (if any). Nowadays, the machine does dictate which humidifier you have to use, as the "stand-alone" humidifiers are no longer popular as they are somewhat cumbersome.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Bertha deBlues » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:06 am

I've had rainout a couple of times, but don't recall a particular sound, just the feeling that water was blasting into my nose (because it was). I ripped the mask off to shake out the water, then went back to sleep once the adrenaline stopped pumping. I hope you find what the problem is and that there's an easy remedy.
[Edit: My mild hearing loss may be the reason I couldn't hear anything. :roll: ]
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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Okie bipap » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:39 am

When condensate forms in the hose, it will sound like a gurgling sound of even a popping noise.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by RogerSC » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Just like to add that I've never had "rain-out", the gurgling is organically based in my case.

Good point, though.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by D.H. » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:15 am

First of all, never fill the reservoir above the “full” line. This is a major cause of rainout.

Solutions for rainout (you can do any or all) of the following:

• Place the unit lower than your head.
• Use a heated hose.
• Use a hose cover.
• Lower the humidity setting.
• Raise the temperature in the room.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Pugsy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:21 pm

D.H. wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:15 am
First of all, never fill the reservoir about the “full” line. This is a major cause of rainout.
The amount of water in the water chamber has absolutely nothing to do with rain out.
Rain out or condensation happens because of the amount of moisture in the hose air or mask and the ambient room temperature.
Water chamber half full or full doesn't change the chance of condensation happening.
Condensation in the mask can happen even if the humidifier isn't even used.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by D.H. » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:47 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:21 pm
D.H. wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:15 am
First of all, never fill the reservoir above the “full” line. This is a major cause of rainout.
The amount of water in the water chamber has absolutely nothing to do with rain out.
Rain out or condensation happens because of the amount of moisture in the hose air or mask and the ambient room temperature.
Water chamber half full or full doesn't change the chance of condensation happening.
Condensation in the mask can happen even if the humidifier isn't even used.
Overfilling the reservoir can cause this. I learned that the hard way when I was a new user!

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by Pugsy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:56 pm

D.H. wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:47 pm
Overfilling the reservoir can cause this. I learned that the hard way when I was a new user!
Well ....over filling can cause water to get blown into the hose but it doesn't cause condensation to happen in the hose.

Condensation happens when the humidified air cools to the point of not being able to hold onto the water in the air and the air releases the moisture.

Air getting blown into the hose because of over filling the water chamber is not the same as condensing.

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Re: Husbands first night with device

Post by D.H. » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:14 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:56 pm
D.H. wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:47 pm
Overfilling the reservoir can cause this. I learned that the hard way when I was a new user!
Well ....over filling can cause water to get blown into the hose but it doesn't cause condensation to happen in the hose.

Condensation happens when the humidified air cools to the point of not being able to hold onto the water in the air and the air releases the moisture.

Air getting blown into the hose because of over filling the water chamber is not the same as condensing.
Water in the hose is still water in the hose, even if the origin is different!

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