O/T why

Off Topic posts/threads are allowed on this forum.
All we ask is that they be clearly marked with the "OT" in the subject line which in this thread it was clearly stated.

Yes this is a cpap forum but OT topics are welcome....news, weather, politics or whatever.

If a person is of the mind set that they don't want to bother with reading stuff unrelated to cpap therapy....don't read the threads clearly marked with OT.

Air Jordan wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:08 am

. . . Talk about it with your family and friends . . .

Always a good idea. And some may consider other members of this forum to be friends and perhaps even chosen family of sorts.

Some of the most valuable info I've learned on this forum has had nothing to do with CPAP/OSA/sleep. Some of that I've learned in threads that meandered from on-topic to off-topic every few posts.

It takes some getting used to, but it still pays off, IMO.

My preference (and it only my personal take) would be that off-topic posts are better when the subject lines give at least some hint of the content of the initial post. (That way no one gets sucker punched by having to read about something on a subject one is trying to avoid.) But I prefer even more strongly that no one here ever feels any duty to conform to my preferences here at all.

When people are in pain or confusion over something in the news, I don't blame them a bit if they turn to the person in the street next to them, a perfect stranger, and express what they feel. But then, I lived in NYC over 30 years, where I have had some great conversations about current events, especially tragic events, with strangers on the street. So what do I know.

Even better ones with seat mates on trains, planes, etc... amazing ones!

Keep in mind I'm one of those left wing bleeding heart Canucks so what I am saying may or may not apply. Feel free to ignore me at will.

When the second amendment was drafted, single shot breach loading rifles were the rule. Now there are assault rifles and machine guns as well as large capacity revolvers. I don't think the founding fathers realized the scale of technological development on guns when drafting that same second amendment. What I don't understand, is why the average joe blow is allowed to have access to these assault rifles?

I would never presume to get between an American and their guns...heaven forbid. That's not the intent of my post. So I wouldn't dare trying to advocate banning all guns, I know that would be a futile effort. But I'm just curious why these high powered multi shot rifles are permitted to the general public over there? Why are they necessary?

Marillion wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:20 pm

What I don't understand, is why the average joe blow is allowed to have access to these assault rifles?

Because A Corrupt Government has them (Our's). They were meant for Survival & Protection, and in some cases to put Food on the table.

The first thing the government takes is your ability to rebel against them, that's how dictators are made and keep their power. Which has more power, bullets or sings on sticks.

Brass is easier to pick up, and it can be recycled easier. Jim

Good news, the media can fan the fires again, and try to move their Sheep to the green grass, for Sheering.

Because A Corrupt Government has them (Our's). They were meant for Survival & Protection, and in some cases to put Food on the table.

The first thing the government takes is your ability to rebel against them, that's how dictators are made and keep their power. Which has more power, bullets or sings on sticks.

Brass is easier to pick up, and it can be recycled easier. Jim

Good news, the media can fan the fires again, and try to move their Sheep to the green grass, for Sheering.

We have gun laws that would be effective--if they were enforced.
We need only one little change:
Anyone who acts as a straw buyer deserves to be tried as an accomplice
to any crime that weapon is later used in.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:55 pm

We have gun laws that would be effective--if they were enforced.
We need only one little change:
Anyone who acts as a straw buyer deserves to be tried as an accomplice
to any crime that weapon is later used in.

The FBI-ese are going after person that made the custom 7.62mm Armor Piercing rounds used in Las Vegas Hotel shooting, probably slap on the wrist, didn't have a Federal license to make them. Jim

You are correct way to many laws, just too many poor ones, and unenforced ones.

The ones Moses brought back, pretty much covers whats needed, what we need is reinforcement of them...

If only guns were as illegal as drugs - problem solved

TedVPAP wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:35 pm

If only guns were as illegal as drugs - problem solved

If each gun owner would shoot one drug dealer, drug problem solved! Then we would need less Guns. Jim

Gun Control is Hitting Only What you Aim At!

Marillion wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:20 pm

Keep in mind I'm one of those left wing bleeding heart Canucks so what I am saying may or may not apply. Feel free to ignore me at will.

When the second amendment was drafted, single shot breach loading rifles were the rule. Now there are assault rifles and machine guns as well as large capacity revolvers. I don't think the founding fathers realized the scale of technological development on guns when drafting that same second amendment. What I don't understand, is why the average joe blow is allowed to have access to these assault rifles?

I would never presume to get between an American and their guns...heaven forbid. That's not the intent of my post. So I wouldn't dare trying to advocate banning all guns, I know that would be a futile effort. But I'm just curious why these high powered multi shot rifles are permitted to the general public over there? Why are they necessary?

I'll tell you what no one else wants to say. The anti-gun people can't just take away guns. they have to approach it with little changes. enough little changes over a period of years could lead to confiscation of all guns. so... the gun people can not permit any changes for the same reason. that's it in a nutshell. stalemate.

greatunclebill wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:14 pm

Marillion wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:20 pm

Keep in mind I'm one of those left wing bleeding heart Canucks so what I am saying may or may not apply. Feel free to ignore me at will.

When the second amendment was drafted, single shot breach loading rifles were the rule. Now there are assault rifles and machine guns as well as large capacity revolvers. I don't think the founding fathers realized the scale of technological development on guns when drafting that same second amendment. What I don't understand, is why the average joe blow is allowed to have access to these assault rifles?

I would never presume to get between an American and their guns...heaven forbid. That's not the intent of my post. So I wouldn't dare trying to advocate banning all guns, I know that would be a futile effort. But I'm just curious why these high powered multi shot rifles are permitted to the general public over there? Why are they necessary?

I'll tell you what no one else wants to say. The anti-gun people can't just take away guns. they have to approach it with little changes. enough little changes over a period of years could lead to confiscation of all guns. so... the gun people can not permit any changes for the same reason. that's it in a nutshell. stalemate.

Wear them down Right, until you can make them think they are wrong..... Then you have your own China and North Korea. Jim

Peace, freedom, and safety can never be guaranteed, or trusted to others.
It is a big job, and it never ends.
“The Salvation of the State is Watchfulness of the Citizen.”

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:29 pm

Peace, freedom, and safety can never be guaranteed, or trusted to others.
It is a big job, and it never ends.
“The Salvation of the State is Watchfulness of the Citizen.”

And the Sheep are so busy eating the grass and drinking the free cool-aid, they don't have time to see the Wolf wearing the Sheep Skin!

Instead of building more Jails, we should be emptying them, not by releasing prisoners back on us, to do the same things over and over, or worse. If you can't live in society, second offense should be removal from life, in crimes against others, including extortion and fraud. Three strikes is one too many, for some crimes two is one too many. Sentences should be carried out the same day they are given. Jim

Goofproof wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:34 pm

Instead of building more Jails, we should be emptying them, not by releasing prisoners back on us, to do the same things over and over, or worse. If you can't live in society, second offense should be removal from life, in crimes against others, including extortion and fraud. Three strikes is one too many, for some crimes two is one too many. Sentences should be carried out the same day they are given. Jim

When there is an open and shut case like this 19 year old in the school where all the kids know who did it, there don't need to be a trial. Out behind the jail, a kill shot in the back of the neck would be fast and humane. The way it is the state of florida may be feeding this guy for 80 years, why?

greatunclebill wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:00 pm

Goofproof wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:34 pm

Instead of building more Jails, we should be emptying them, not by releasing prisoners back on us, to do the same things over and over, or worse. If you can't live in society, second offense should be removal from life, in crimes against others, including extortion and fraud. Three strikes is one too many, for some crimes two is one too many. Sentences should be carried out the same day they are given. Jim

When there is an open and shut case like this 19 year old in the school where all the kids know who did it, there don't need to be a trial. Out behind the jail, a kill shot in the back of the neck would be fast and humane. The way it is the state of florida may be feeding this guy for 80 years, why?

No way should it be painless, killed 18, 17 shots placed right then the 18th the kill shot. That's why the Old M-14 I used in the Army used a 20 round mag, and I carried 6 of them. Jim

It wasn't painless for the 17! Not in back of the jail In Public, let the News Cameras play real news for a change, kill innocents, pay the price.... Want to up the body count, we'll add yours, and we won't be housing you or feeding you.