OSA EXACERBATES TYPE 2

I am not talking about glucose tolerance, insulin resistence, weight gain........ If I work on getting my blood sugar readings better and succeed the OSA numbers fall apart and vice/versa. What are the underlying causes?

LAWRENCESPIEGEL wrote:I am not talking about glucose tolerance, insulin resistence, weight gain........ If I work on getting my blood sugar readings better and succeed the OSA numbers fall apart and vice/versa. What are the underlying causes?

That makes no sense, whatsoever.

How long have you been on CPAP?


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All of the indicators you mention are related in multiple ways. Science has not yet definitively sorted out all the ways that those factors are related, let alone what "causes" what. So you do what is best for each, hopefully improving overall health instead of getting distracted by treating the symptoms. PAP has a good record of fixing breathing and sleep, which both improve all other health factors. A person on PAP may actually breathe better and sleep better than non-OSA people, once therapy is optimized. Successfully treating type 2 diabetes is a more controversial subject, since often symptoms get treated while everyone pretends they are treating the root cause. PAP treatment is in its infancy, but frankly it is light-years ahead and more successful by far than many present mainstream diabetes "treatments," in my opinion.

But, yeah, untreated OSA exacerbates pretty much anything that is capable of being exacerbated, since humans need to breathe and to sleep to live, and OSA can ruin both in a hurry if not treated.

Sometimes, sugar is high upon awakening. How does your sleep correlate to you mid-day blood sugar level?

Funny how dawn effect could occur close to periods of high REM.
The OP's complaint might be related to less than ideal pressure settings,
NOT reasonable glucose control.

Personally a type II, using high doses of mixed insulin, a have found if my sugar goes low, I tend to wake up and can't go back to sleepless I raise my levels. That, a good thing..... For me under 100 is wake up ;evel, for people in better control that would probably be lower. Over time it's become normal for me. Jim

Treat the Sleep Apnea to the max, and the Diabetes too, you have a better chance treating the Apnea, the Diabetes is a fight that changes every day, usually many times daily.

I have noticed that when I try to start a low carb diet my AHI goes up and on days I
overdo it on the carbs my AHI goes down. I believe eating carbs makes your seritonin
rise. I think one guy wrote a book about this " Potatoes not Prozac " .

You would be better on prozac if you were a diabetic, sugars and starches only make T2 and T1 BG control worse.

@goofproof this forum is good for T2 https://www.diabetesdaily.com/forum/

If you do do this, you need to cut your insulin down or you will hypo bad. He is suggesting by 50% initially.
Watch this video. It will reduce the amount of insulin or not need it anymore. T2 is a disease of insulin resistance, even though T2's have more insulin in their system than a normal person, they still can't make enough. Cutting the sugars and starches will help fix this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMizC6 ... Cjnly3J7LB

this is a 20g diet that was used
http://au.atkins.com/new-atkins/the-pro ... ction.html

ajack wrote:You would be better on prozac if you were a diabetic, sugars and starches only make T2 and T1 BG control worse.

@goofproof this forum is good for T2 https://www.diabetesdaily.com/forum/

If you do do this, you need to cut your insulin down or you will hypo bad. He is suggesting by 50% initially.
Watch the last 15 minutes of this video. It will reduce the amount of insulin or not need it anymore. T2 is a disease of insulin resistance, even though T2's have more insulin in their system than a normal person, they still can't make enough. Cutting the sugars and starches will help fix this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMizC6 ... Cjnly3J7LB

this is a 20g diet that was used
http://au.atkins.com/new-atkins/the-pro ... ction.html

Unless that forum can replace the 2/3's of my heart function a new hip and two knees, which in my condition I couldn't survive the surgery, All that's left is to deal with it, I do daily. Jim

We each play the cards we are dealt, trying to win enough hands to stay at the table a bit longer.
Some players fail to notice that others here have been given cards off the BOTTOM of the deck.
Well played Jim.

chunkyfrog wrote:We each play the cards we are dealt, trying to win enough hands to stay at the table a bit longer.
Some players fail to notice that others here have been given cards off the BOTTOM of the deck.
Well played Jim.

Think 6 cyl Corvair, with four broken plugs, not going to win any hill climbs, but still goes out for Sunday drives. Jim