Sleepyhead vs myAir

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Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by nesdon » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:39 pm

I just got a new machine,a Resmed Airsense 10, and like its wifi connectivity, giving me stats automatically on the apps on my laptop and phone. I also downloaded the data (only one night) onto an SD card and then looked at it in Sleepyhead, and can't really see any reason not to just stick with the Resmed myAir app, although this is the first time I've ever looked at either one, so wonder if there's more I'm missing.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by JimW159 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:01 pm

nesdon wrote:I just got a new machine,a Resmed Airsense 10, and like its wifi connectivity, giving me stats automatically on the apps on my laptop and phone. I also downloaded the data (only one night) onto an SD card and then looked at it in Sleepyhead, and can't really see any reason not to just stick with the Resmed myAir app, although this is the first time I've ever looked at either one, so wonder if there's more I'm missing.
I have no experience with MyAir, but first - it is not wifi connected, it is a cellular connection. From what I understand, the user (not the recipient of the data sent via cellular) gets little beyond what they have been able to get from the machine's screen following a sleep session.
SleepyHead, on the other hand, provides data that is more complete and has the ability for the user to look at and compare data and waveforms over a period of time as narrowly as a few seconds to the whole night and against other periods selectively. For example, if I want to compare numerical data for the past week, I can - easily. If I want to look closely at waveforms for several factors immediately adjacent to and including a reported event, I can - equally easily.
Personally, It all comes down to who do you want to understand your therapy first and the most - yourself or some unknown person deciding if you fit the definition of "compliance" they use in agreeing to pay for your use? Admitedly, if insurance is paying they will have to know - how they get the information is up to them - DME, doc, or you. Only a conversation with them will tell you the answer. If it requires MyAir, do it - they will still get what they need - they just won't be getting all the story. Given that, only you can act the quickest to change something in your setup to address an issue with the setup itself - personally, I find SH fills that need best. If somewhere along the line you find a doc, DME, or insurance who will accept the statistics from SH as compliance proof, you're home free.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Okie bipap » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:32 pm

As long as your apnea is under control and you are happy with your treatment, the MyAir site will provide enough information. However, if you are not happy with your treatment, or want to make changes, then Sleepyhead is the way to go. Since starting to use Sleepyhead, I no longer use MyAir.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:08 pm

As long as you are feeling great and sleeping great and there's nothing on the MyAir report that is alarming or causing concern then there's probably no urgent need to dig deeper into the details that SleepyHead will provide.

I don't use MyAir (long story there) but I don't really need it or even care about the data available on the LCD screen (which is essentially what MyAir will show). I don't even download all that often to use SleepyHead but it is there if I should need or want it for some reason or other.

Some people just like seeing all the nitty gritty details that SH provides....others don't really care and if they are sleeping great and feeling great then there's probably not a huge reason to go looking at those nitty gritty details.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by nesdon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:48 pm

Now that I have a few days and little more familiarity with SH, I see that myAir is mostly a gamified compliance inducer, and doesn't offer much to help tune treatment. Is there a way to export the wireless data to SH rather than physically moving the SD card?

MyAir seems happy with the therapy, giving me scores of 100 even tho I'm having 1-2 events/hr of both of hypopnea and obstructive events, as well as about 3/hr of RERAs. My Dr, when we discussed which machine he would give me, suggested I stick with a fixed pressure even tho the machine he eventually prescribed has an autoset function.

Since I am still having a few events, and did awaken once last night with the typical panic I recognize as the aftermath of an event (tho it may have been a RERA event judging by the time I recall and the SH record) so I'm thinking of changing to the autoset function and set a slightly higher max setting in hopes it would push through those events.

What are the potential negative consequences of using autoset function? I did have issues with with my mouth blowing open when I was heavier and was using 25cm, but at the 7cm I have been using, I haven't had much of an issue. I was thinking of using a min of 6 and a max of 9 to start.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:56 pm

nesdon wrote:Is there a way to export the wireless data to SH rather than physically moving the SD card?
Yes, there is a way but it involves a special type of WiFi card. See this link down at the bottom down where it says "transfer data from cpap machines" for further information.

https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment
nesdon wrote: What are the potential negative consequences of using autoset function? I did have issues with with my mouth blowing open when I was heavier and was using 25cm, but at the 7cm I have been using, I haven't had much of an issue. I was thinking of using a min of 6 and a max of 9 to start.
Not really much in negatives unless the machine wants to go high and the going high causes problems....more leaks, aerophagia or triggers centrals (very rare) or the pressure changes themselves cause arousals.
With a tight range of 6 to 9 you should be fine.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by loggerhead12 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:13 pm

They are apples and oranges. MyAir is like the check-engine light on your car. SleepyHead is like the diagnostic computer you plug into your car when the check engine light comes on. If there's no check-engine light you don't plug in the diagnostic computer.

On a day-to-day basis if my AHI is OK, leak rate is OK, and I feel OK, no need to use SleepyHead. When things go sideways SleepyHead is the way to go, since MyAir can't give you any kind of detail about what happened.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:14 pm

Oranges (SleepyHead) vs Lemons (MyAir), I'd go with Oranges, they are Sweeter.

Unlike MyAir Sleepyhead provided useful data and more of it. Jim
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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Jas_williams » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:39 pm

For WiFi access to your machine look for a Toshiba Flashair card and Flashpap

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by Okie bipap » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:46 pm

I have Flash Air cards in both of our machines and use flashpap to transfer data from the machines to my computer.

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Re: Sleepyhead vs myAir

Post by nesdon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:19 pm

Thanks so much for the info.