Update-clogged filters --> high pressure -wife's humidifier?
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:00 pm
An update from my previous question (thanks everyone for the ideas!)
My issue that was after a month plus of use, my CPAP would continuously ramp up to a high pressure that would wake me up and make it hard to initially fall asleep or fall back to sleep. Every time I would wash the larger filter and replace the disposable filter, the machine would work great for 2-3 days then have the same issue.
I confirmed the filters were getting clogged by thumb-measuring the air FLOW rate at the end of the tube. It would be:
no filters - high flow rate
Larger filter only - high, but not as much
Larger+new disposable - high, but not as much
Larger+3 day old disposable - very low flow rate
The same pattern was evident if I set the pressure at 6 cm or 16 cm.
The troubleshooting person at the DME provider asked if I was using a separate humidifier or space heater in the bedroom. Indeed, we recently started using both - about the same time I started having issues. So I decided to do an experiment where we would only use the space heater OR the humidifier until the filter gets clogged, to see if one of these is the problem.
We stopped using my wife's humidifier and so far I have used the same filter for 5 nights and no issues so far. The flow rate is still strong. Once this experiment is over, we'll use the humidifier but not the space heater.
Two questions for y'all:
1) Does anyone else use a humidifier for their spouse and do they find the humid air causing issues for your filter? Perhaps we need to position it better.
2) The disposable air filters are cheap, but why can't we wash them? Is the mesh very tight and it uses electrostatic forces to remove the small particles so washing could be difficult or make their re-use not as effective? More out of curiosity, since they are cheap.
In summary, this is what I think my problem is. Wife's humidifier would cause the filter to clog quickly --> greatly reduce the flow rate --> (((causing many VS/VS2/snoring events (while awake!) as seen on Sleepyhead))) --> the CPAP continuously increasing my pressure --> high pressure causing leaks and general discomfort along with the low flow rate causing the mask to deflate during inhalation and inflate during exhalation --> inability to fall asleep --> both unconsciously removing mask during the night or consciously turning off the machine.
Regarding the inflation/deflation - when the machine is performing great, I can't tell it is on and sometimes have to check the mask vent to see if air is escaping. When the flow rate is low. the soft silicone cushion on my Amara View moves as it inflates/deflates with my breathing, waking me up.
Thanks everyone!
I'll give an update after my experiments are finished!
My issue that was after a month plus of use, my CPAP would continuously ramp up to a high pressure that would wake me up and make it hard to initially fall asleep or fall back to sleep. Every time I would wash the larger filter and replace the disposable filter, the machine would work great for 2-3 days then have the same issue.
I confirmed the filters were getting clogged by thumb-measuring the air FLOW rate at the end of the tube. It would be:
no filters - high flow rate
Larger filter only - high, but not as much
Larger+new disposable - high, but not as much
Larger+3 day old disposable - very low flow rate
The same pattern was evident if I set the pressure at 6 cm or 16 cm.
The troubleshooting person at the DME provider asked if I was using a separate humidifier or space heater in the bedroom. Indeed, we recently started using both - about the same time I started having issues. So I decided to do an experiment where we would only use the space heater OR the humidifier until the filter gets clogged, to see if one of these is the problem.
We stopped using my wife's humidifier and so far I have used the same filter for 5 nights and no issues so far. The flow rate is still strong. Once this experiment is over, we'll use the humidifier but not the space heater.
Two questions for y'all:
1) Does anyone else use a humidifier for their spouse and do they find the humid air causing issues for your filter? Perhaps we need to position it better.
2) The disposable air filters are cheap, but why can't we wash them? Is the mesh very tight and it uses electrostatic forces to remove the small particles so washing could be difficult or make their re-use not as effective? More out of curiosity, since they are cheap.
In summary, this is what I think my problem is. Wife's humidifier would cause the filter to clog quickly --> greatly reduce the flow rate --> (((causing many VS/VS2/snoring events (while awake!) as seen on Sleepyhead))) --> the CPAP continuously increasing my pressure --> high pressure causing leaks and general discomfort along with the low flow rate causing the mask to deflate during inhalation and inflate during exhalation --> inability to fall asleep --> both unconsciously removing mask during the night or consciously turning off the machine.
Regarding the inflation/deflation - when the machine is performing great, I can't tell it is on and sometimes have to check the mask vent to see if air is escaping. When the flow rate is low. the soft silicone cushion on my Amara View moves as it inflates/deflates with my breathing, waking me up.
Thanks everyone!
I'll give an update after my experiments are finished!