just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
How it determines hypopneas is described in my Autoset 10 clinical manual - isn't it in yours?
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Page 19 of the Clinical .pdf manual:
Events (AHI) per hour
Apneas and hypopneas measured per hour for one day.
An apnea is when the respiratory flow decreases by more than 75% for at least 10 sec.
A hypopnea is when the respiratory flow decreases to 50% for at least 10 sec.
The Apnea Index (AI) and Apnea-Hypopnea Index (AHI) are calculated by dividing the total number of events that occurred by the total mask-on therapy period in hours.
Note: Under conditions of high leak with EPR enabled, AHI detection may not be optimal.
You're welcome.
Events (AHI) per hour
Apneas and hypopneas measured per hour for one day.
An apnea is when the respiratory flow decreases by more than 75% for at least 10 sec.
A hypopnea is when the respiratory flow decreases to 50% for at least 10 sec.
The Apnea Index (AI) and Apnea-Hypopnea Index (AHI) are calculated by dividing the total number of events that occurred by the total mask-on therapy period in hours.
Note: Under conditions of high leak with EPR enabled, AHI detection may not be optimal.
You're welcome.
Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Bummer. I guess they figure that by the time you get into an ASV simple definitions are not needed?
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Page 13... get someone to read it to you.xxyzx wrote:=======TASmart wrote:How it determines hypopneas is described in my Autoset 10 clinical manual - isn't it in yours?
no
Get OSCAR
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
No, it's there, he just needs someone to help him with the big words.TASmart wrote:Bummer. I guess they figure that by the time you get into an ASV simple definitions are not needed?
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
I would have said: maybe a picture could help - but he already looked at his charts and couldn't see it - so that seems to be no option at all.
Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
You do know that no one can help you understand why a picture does not look the way you think it should, when you don't share the picture don't you? If you want help, we need to see the facts - not your interpretations.xxyzx wrote:=========TASmart wrote:Bummer. I guess they figure that by the time you get into an ASV simple definitions are not needed?
the problem is not the definition
the question is how they are claiming to have met their definition from that data
i dont see any hypops when they claim them
i do see them when they did not
no snore
no flow limitation
no flat topping of the breathing wave
no lack of air flow or reduction in Vt
nothing
and they declared a hypop
Since you are not interested in a serious answer, I'll vote for your Remed is guessing theory.
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
I will try to help you - I do love a challenge.xxyzx wrote:==========TedVPAP wrote:You do know that no one can help you understand why a picture does not look the way you think it should, when you don't share the picture don't you? If you want help, we need to see the facts - not your interpretations.xxyzx wrote:=========TASmart wrote:Bummer. I guess they figure that by the time you get into an ASV simple definitions are not needed?
the problem is not the definition
the question is how they are claiming to have met their definition from that data
i dont see any hypops when they claim them
i do see them when they did not
no snore
no flow limitation
no flat topping of the breathing wave
no lack of air flow or reduction in Vt
nothing
and they declared a hypop
Since you are not interested in a serious answer, I'll vote for your Remed is guessing theory.
you dont know jack so you dont need anything
my question is clear
HOW do they decide that the flow was limited to declare a hypop
you dont need the pictures
just some knowledge which you have none of
just tell us HOW they decide there is a hypop not the criteria for it
the question is how they know the flow rate was limited by a hypop
HOW they decide there is a hypopnea is by APPLYING the criteria. That is how criteria is used.
What is the criteria that your machine uses???? Please state it verbatim.
Once you know that, you can then APPLY it to your data.
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
I've stayed away from Alphabet Boy and his conflicts with everyone here, but this thread is just too much.
It's obvious that xyzzy is an internet troll. Why do people keep responding to him?
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Internet_troll
If there was ever a discussion that called for a picture, this is the one. And yet he won't supply a picture, even though people have specifically asked him for it.
INTERNET TROLL. AND YOU'RE ALL BEING PLAYED BY HIM.
I'm surprised it's lasted for so many months. And I'm looking forward to being called a "libtard" by him in response. Nobody has ever accused me of being a liberal in my entire life. And there's a first time for everything!
It's obvious that xyzzy is an internet troll. Why do people keep responding to him?
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Internet_troll
If there was ever a discussion that called for a picture, this is the one. And yet he won't supply a picture, even though people have specifically asked him for it.
INTERNET TROLL. AND YOU'RE ALL BEING PLAYED BY HIM.
I'm surprised it's lasted for so many months. And I'm looking forward to being called a "libtard" by him in response. Nobody has ever accused me of being a liberal in my entire life. And there's a first time for everything!
Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
When I apply my machine's criteria to my data, it makes perfect sense why the hypopnea event was flagged.xxyzx wrote:=========TedVPAP wrote:I will try to help you - I do love a challenge.xxyzx wrote:==========TedVPAP wrote:You do know that no one can help you understand why a picture does not look the way you think it should, when you don't share the picture don't you? If you want help, we need to see the facts - not your interpretations.xxyzx wrote: =========
the problem is not the definition
the question is how they are claiming to have met their definition from that data
i dont see any hypops when they claim them
i do see them when they did not
no snore
no flow limitation
no flat topping of the breathing wave
no lack of air flow or reduction in Vt
nothing
and they declared a hypop
Since you are not interested in a serious answer, I'll vote for your Remed is guessing theory.
you dont know jack so you dont need anything
my question is clear
HOW do they decide that the flow was limited to declare a hypop
you dont need the pictures
just some knowledge which you have none of
just tell us HOW they decide there is a hypop not the criteria for it
the question is how they know the flow rate was limited by a hypop
HOW they decide there is a hypopnea is by APPLYING the criteria. That is how criteria is used.
What is the criteria that your machine uses???? Please state it verbatim.
Once you know that, you can then APPLY it to your data.
you are truly a jerk
i know the criteria
i am saying the data they show us does not support their claiming hypopnea based on the sleepyhead graphs
so do they have some other magic method that they dont release to the outside world
or do they just guess
I don't know what the criteria is for your machine since you did not state it. Nor can I comment about how your data looks relative to your hypopnea event flag since you did not show it.
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
If that is the case, why ask us?xxyzx wrote: you dont know jack so you dont need anything
my question is clear
HOW do they decide that the flow was limited to declare a hypop
you dont need the pictures
just some knowledge which you have none of
just tell us HOW they decide there is a hypop not the criteria for it
the question is how they know the flow rate was limited by a hypop
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Ask a Real Engineer, I've heard they know everything! Jim
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
When I apply my machine's criteria to my data, it makes perfect sense why the hypopnea event was flagged.xxyzx wrote:you are truly a jerk
i know the criteria
i am saying the data they show us does not support their claiming hypopnea based on the sleepyhead graphs
so do they have some other magic method that they dont release to the outside world
or do they just guess
I don't know what the criteria is for your machine since you did not state it. Nor can I comment about how your data looks relative to your hypopnea event flag since you did not show it.[/quote]
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my machine does not tell HOW i t determines the criteria was met
there are no decreases in flow or anything else that would indicate hypops on my data
it has to have something else hidden that it uses but does not end up in sleepyheads printouts[/quote]
Maybe your right.
Maybe your wrong.
Maybe your confused.
Maybe SH didn't put the event flag in the correct location.
Maybe ...
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Re: just how does the xpap determine hypopnea
Because, when he’s only an engineer because Mommy gave him a big plastic hammer and screwdriver set for his last birthday, all these graphs and science stuff are a little beyond his intellectual grasp.JimW159 wrote:If that is the case, why ask us?xxyzx wrote: you dont know jack so you dont need anything
my question is clear
HOW do they decide that the flow was limited to declare a hypop
you dont need the pictures
just some knowledge which you have none of
just tell us HOW they decide there is a hypop not the criteria for it
the question is how they know the flow rate was limited by a hypop