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SoClean Review-Here!

Post by phuqueutoo » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:14 am

As Spock would say, "Fascinating." After all the negative comments about SoClean in the forum, mainly from people who never tried it, behold! There is a favorable review at the top of the forum, put there I assume, by the folks at CPAP dot com.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by TedVPAP » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:36 am

It appears that the reviewer is not a CPAP user as they stated they "borrowed a cpap machine" for testing. Essentially a worthless review.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by phuqueutoo » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:16 am

TedVPAP wrote:It appears that the reviewer is not a CPAP user as they stated they "borrowed a cpap machine" for testing. Essentially a worthless review.
Oh yes, I forgot. If you don't agree with a review, it's a "worthless review." If you do agree, then it's an "outstanding, insightful review."

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:36 am

the silicone of your mask will turn yellow or brownish within some time. (that's a fact from real tests and not some "I tried that for 2 nights and it is awesome"-"review")

ozone does not clean - never has - is can desinfect already clean sufaces. It could help if you would clean your mask first and than put it in the soclean - but why bother? If you already cleaned it, it is already as clean as it needs to be.

If you are lazy get yourself an ultrasonic bath.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by TedVPAP » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:39 am

phuqueutoo wrote:
TedVPAP wrote:It appears that the reviewer is not a CPAP user as they stated they "borrowed a cpap machine" for testing. Essentially a worthless review.
Oh yes, I forgot. If you don't agree with a review, it's a "worthless review." If you do agree, then it's an "outstanding, insightful review."
You are not even close.
The only value the review provided was that it is easy to use. Although that is good to know, that is not what is most important. What is most important to know is if CPAP users find the product useful as it enables them to significanty alter their maintenance/cleaning.
My schedule is dumping the water every morning so surfaces can dry and cleaning every ~3 months. The "review" provides no insights as to how owning it would help me.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Midnight Strangler » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:39 am

phuqueutoo wrote: There is a favorable review
Favorable????

the machine is kind of noisy and it’s best for it to run when it won’t bother anyone. As a matter of fact, the machine is so loud that we can imagine an irritated dog barking at it every time it goes off.

We didn’t do any bacterial sampling, so we can’t attest to its effectiveness

At $299 it seems to be slightly expensive

Your idea of a favorable review and my idea vary widely.

phuqueutoo wrote:put there I assume, by the folks at CPAP dot com
No, that is not at all the way the news feature works.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Goofproof » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:35 am

If it's so good take the AD Fee and apply it to your purchase. Don't try to fool other fools. Jim
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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:38 am

SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM
Advertising is so rarely truthful.
This is PROOF!
Advertising can pay the bills, just not yours or mine.
Thank goodness, we are under no obligation to patronize the "news feed".
In fact we can disable the feature and NEVER LOOK AT IT.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by LSAT » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:22 pm

Ozone disinfects...Ozone does not clean. You need to clean your product before you disinfect it with the dangerous ozone. CPAP equipment only needs occasional cleaning.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Pugsy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:24 pm

Disinfecting doesn't equal cleaning.

Disinfecting just means that the dirt, grime, facial oils, snot when you sneeze in the mask, or drool in the mask, or gunk you cough up in the mask...doesn't have any bacteria or germs on or in the gunk which you don't remove with soap and water cleaning.
Even So Clean says that you need to actually clean the gunk off.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:42 pm

In fact, SoClean wants to sell you CLEANING PRODUCTS to use on your cpap BEFORE using their machine.
Even though their ads imply regular cleaning is not necessary, they know full well the limitations of their product.
---and expect to profit from their own damn LIES.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by TedVPAP » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:00 pm

xxyzx wrote:
TedVPAP wrote:It appears that the reviewer is not a CPAP user as they stated they "borrowed a cpap machine" for testing. Essentially a worthless review.
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nonsense

why does it matter what machine they used to test it ?
It doesn't matter; nor did I imply that it does.
I have already explained the reasons as to why the "review" is essentially worthless.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:13 pm

xxyzx wrote:does it turn yellow before the 3 months replacement cycle arrives ?
does the color affect how it works with the xpap?
depends on how long you let in there and how much ozone your machine produces. But we are more talking about weeks not months.
xxyzx wrote:i care about disinfecting not 'cleaning'
why would you do that? they are your germs - they actually do come from you! If you are afraid of them, I would have to recommend washing / showering at least every other day.
xxyzx wrote:the real question is how much cleaning is really necessary if any
and what is the easiest way to achieve that
easiest way always has been and always will be:
soap + water. and once in a while a little bit of vinegar or whatever you want for the humidifier.

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:15 pm

xxyzx wrote:ozone IS a disinfectant
please do actually READ what you linked - you can not desinfect drity sufaces! - it simply does not work that way!

it does not help if you keep on repeating nonsense over and over again! repeating an ad is not "sharing" facts!

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Re: SoClean Review-Here!

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:07 pm

xxyzx wrote:========
ozone is not dangerous as used in soclean
from epa gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/ozone-generators-are-sold-air-cleaners#harmful-ozone
How is Ozone Harmful?

The same chemical properties that allow high concentrations of ozone to react with organic material outside the body give it the ability to react with similar organic material that makes up the body, and potentially cause harmful health consequences. When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections. People vary widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty, can experience breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful effects can occur following short-term exposure to low levels of ozone, but health effects may become more damaging and recovery less certain at higher levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a, 1996b).

Ozone and Your Health (PDF) (2 pp, 2.5 MB, About PDF)

Manufacturers and vendors of ozone devices often use misleading terms to describe ozone. Terms such as "energized oxygen" or "pure air" suggest that ozone is a healthy kind of oxygen. Ozone is a toxic gas with vastly different chemical and toxicological properties from oxygen. Several federal agencies have established health standards or recommendations to limit human exposure to ozone. These exposure limits are summarized in Table 1.
The question is why would you knowingly do this to yourself? Create an environment full of something that is known to cause lung irritation then breath thru it ALL nite long? Anyone?