installing and using sleepyhead

xxyzx wrote:also this thing asked for WAY TOO MUCH PERSONAL DATA that is totally unnecessary to run a report from
if NSA is not stealing private info this way why does it care what my name and phone nr are and my doctors name yada yada

It doesn't need anything but some made up user profile name to run.
I don't know why Mark added all that crap.
It doesn't do anything with it and it doesn't phone home with it. Makes the reports look "official" I suppose just in case someone wants to show it to their doctor or something.

xxyzx wrote:could not see the install menu and options as it was covered by the sleepyhead logo block

after it may have installed
immediate error message vsprintf_s not found in dll library msvcrt.dll

A screen shot would help.

kept going
a couple of other strange occurrences
then finally it seemed to run and wanted data to be imported

You don't yet have any data to import. Most people who install SleepyHead already have an SD card with one or more night's of data on it. Until you import the data, you can't look at it.

i use xp pro sp3

should i abandon this and get a newer pc
or is this sort of errors and odd messages normal

everything seems to run slow
dont know if it phones home or is written in some script language that is slow or what

Sounds like you are running a pretty old machine if you're still using XP.

SleepyHead does not "phone home". It is written in a standard scripting language, but I've forgotten which. (If you want, you can download the source code and examine it. JediMark doesn't hide the source.)

also this thing asked for WAY TOO MUCH PERSONAL DATA that is totally unnecessary to run a report from

All of that information can be skipped and SleepyHead will still run. But basically the program asks for the same information that ResScan and Encore Pro use in patient profiles to make a printout that is usable for the doctor and DME: Name and address of patient, name of doctor. And information about the diagnosis and the prescription.

The stuff about height, weight, and additional information about the machine settings are also optional, but they're useful for using some of the SleepyHead bells and whistles. You can use SH to track daily weight if weight is one of your issues, and if you give SH your height as well as weight, SH will be happy to track daily body mass index. If you don't give SH your height or weight, then you don't get that data.

if NSA is not stealing private info this way why does it care what my name and phone nr are and my doctors name yada yada

JediMark is an Australian programmer who wrote SleepyHead in order to make it easier to track his own data. He is a forum member, but does not post much. He's been having health problems and so he's not done much coding recently. But I assure you that he's not feeding any of your data to the NSA.

And again, JediMark provided places to enter all that information in case someone wants to use SleepyHead to generate an official looking report to hand to a doctor, a DME, or in some cases a Division of Motor Vehicles office since in some parts of the world your driver's license can be restricted if you have been diagnosed with sleep apnea and you cannot prove that you are compliant with therapy.

But SleepyHead works fine if you leave all of that personal information totally blank.

xxyzx wrote:i guess i am wondering if it will really work if that dll was missing
and why was it missing ?

There's a Windows file needed for SH to work properly. It's possible that your old computer simply doesn't have that file.
I thought that this latest version had all those Windows related library files but maybe your computer doesn't have something that is needed and not included in the install.
It's fixable once you know the file that SH needs.

If you try to download and SH won't work it will tell you what is missing and then you just have to go get it.
We had a similar issue with the 0.9.8 version and I had to do it myself.
I didn't have to do anything special with this latest version but then again my computer is much newer.

You can always get ResScan if you can't get SH to work.

xxyzx wrote: xp pro sp3 is solid
the problem with 8 and 10 is the TOS say that ALL YOUR (DATA)BASE ARE BELONG TO US
and they have the right to dl anything and use it

I know all about how shitty Win 8 and Win 10 are. But Win 7 is pretty solid. Hubby refuses to update any of our Win 7 machines, and I have no objections. (I'm a mac person myself teaching in a mac-based math department, and so I only have to deal with Win 7 occasionally. Except for listening to hubby curse at his machines.)

But the sad fact is XP is not supported any longer and it was already getting long in the tooth when JediMark started writing SleepyHead. So debugging for XP was not at the forefront of his efforts.

xxyzx wrote:

Pugsy wrote: You can always get ResScan if you can't get SH to work.

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thanks

i was going to install rescan in the morning

i can always dl a dll or other file if that is all that is needed

You may find ResScan runs even slower than SleepyHead, particularly on an XP. Way back in 2010 when I was just starting PAPing, I was using a Resmed S9 AutoSet. And I had Hubby install ResScan on an XP that he wasn't using for anything. And even by 2010 standards, it seemed big, bloated, and slow. But not as big, bloated, and slow as Encore, the software for PR machines.

robysue wrote: SleepyHead does not "phone home".

actually it has an auto-updater build in, so it does in fact "call home".

robysue wrote: It is written in a standard scripting language, but I've forgotten which. (If you want, you can download the source code and examine it. JediMark doesn't hide the source.)

it is written in c++, which is not a "scripting" language but (one of) THE (standard) language(s).

Guest wrote:

robysue wrote: It is written in a standard scripting language, but I've forgotten which. (If you want, you can download the source code and examine it. JediMark doesn't hide the source.)

it is written in c++, which is not a "scripting" language but (one of) THE (standard) language(s).

[/quote]Thanks for this correction. As I said, at one point I knew what the source was written in. And the fact that it's written in c++ is not a surprise. But since I don't do serious coding, I haven't kept that particular fact in my mind.

xxyzx wrote:jedimark needs to debug his code not xp

Jedimark did all this for free...and while sick and while having his own personal issues mucking up his life.

He made the code open source...feel free to fix it yourself.
The few bugs aren't the end of the world and it's clearly stated that it is Beta software and if you don't like bugs or Beta...use ResScan.

it works - it works very fine even on XP.

If you would know even a little bit about computers (that's what usually is called PC^^) you would have no problems at all starting it ... libtards usually have no problems with it - makes me wonder who's smarter^^

Guest wrote:it works - it works very fine even on XP.

If you would know even a little bit about computers (that's what usually is called PC^^) you would have no problems at all starting it ... libtards usually have no problems with it - makes me wonder who's smarter^^

TOUCHE !!!!!!!!! +10000000000000

Pugsy wrote:

xxyzx wrote:jedimark needs to debug his code not xp

Jedimark did all this for free...and while sick and while having his own personal issues mucking up his life.

He made the code open source...feel free to fix it yourself.
The few bugs aren't the end of the world and it's clearly stated that it is Beta software and if you don't like bugs or Beta...use ResScan.

+1000

People do tend to forget that JediMark started his SleepyHead project when he was still quite sick. He worked on SleepyHead as a labor of love. And he did it for free. And through the years he's accommodated many, many user requests for making SH work with this machine or that one ...

He's put the source code out there because he is committed to the idea of open source software.

He's not doing any active coding right now. He still has health issues. As well as other issues in his personal life. And he's earned a break from doing anything more with SH in my opinion.

And even though it's betaware and even though there are bugs, it still runs rings around both ResScan and Encore in terms of usability for a typical patient.

xxyzx wrote:i can live with known bugs if it basically works

I've used SleepyHead with XP, Vista, 7, and now 10 and, except for some minor bugs, it works quite well. A person of your brilliance, experience, and vast knowledge should have no trouble running it. After all, lots of folks on the forum with little knowledge of computers beyond how to turn one on have managed to download, install, and use SleepyHead with few problems. They have even managed to post screenshots of their therapy, though many of have never posted such things before, to receive help in analyzing their results to better optimize their treatment. I am looking forward to seeing your screenshots.

xxyzx wrote:

Pugsy wrote:

xxyzx wrote:jedimark needs to debug his code not xp

Jedimark did all this for free...and while sick and while having his own personal issues mucking up his life.

He made the code open source...feel free to fix it yourself.
The few bugs aren't the end of the world and it's clearly stated that it is Beta software and if you don't like bugs or Beta...use ResScan.

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i understand that

maybe all the users could work like they do with linux to improve the code and update it

i can live with known bugs if it basically works

Very few CPAP users, even on this forum, are actually competent programmers. There are a number of people here, however, that ARE competent programmers and many of them DID help JediMark a lot in the project. Many more of us who are not programmers helped out by providing data (lots of it) and testing of pre-released versions of the software.

once again - as it was already stated many times in this thread:

people with next to absolutely NO knowledge or experience about computers managed to install and run sleepyhead without any problems.

if YOU are the only one who can't get it to work, there are 2 options: a) ask very politely (in your case I would ASSume begging!) or b) go figure it out yourself you "brilliant engineer"
It is open-source - you should have no problems to build it yourself.

.... if you can't get it to work all there is to say is: you know shit about computers and don't know how to build or code! [period]

for christ sake ... even a 11 year old has a better grasp of computers than you have!

neither microsoft nor jedimark nor the creators of Qt are to blame if you can't get your system working! REALLY!
If you are MISSING on DLLs and the system tells you so maybe you should install the neccessary frameworks yourself! ... ever heard of google (or bing or whatever)?
(it is NOT brilliant engineering if you start deleting the crap out of windows because you declare the files as libtards ... it is just plain stupid!)

everyone else EXCEPT YOU has no problems ... what does logic tell you?

there is only 1 single libtard around who gets exactly nothing (like in 0) straight!


... go train a bit with your broken ASV and fail quickly on that and than please move on to some place else ... maybe there still is an XP-board around where you can troll some cranky old guys who have no clue at all how brilliant you are and that everyone else is a libtard -.-