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buenos nochas, being new to cpap i've read alot about rainout. i'm considering getting a remstar m w/ humidifier. is rainout any different w/ an integrated humidifier? my main question though, is: are the heated tubes worth getting, and, can ou get one in the usa, at cpap.com for example.

thanks your all your help and insight. it truly does make a difference !!!

I would wait until you get your machine and get used to it before you go spending any money on a heated hose.
I have found that I do not need to heat my water in fact I do not like the feeling of it being heated.
Even when I was heating the water I never had a rainout problem.

In my experience, a heated humidifier will not change you odds of experiencing rain out. It only took a few episodes for me to order the Aussie heated hose. It works like a charm. Unless things have changed, the only place to get a heated hose is Australia.

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magoo, most of us order the heated hose ("heated cpap tube") from sleepzone.com.au
Shipping to the U.S. is free. Very simple.

There's also an online store in the U.S. that has started selling sleepzone's heated hose: cpapusa.com

Well I jsut ordered my new machine and I was thinking about getting a heated hose. I ordered a Respironics REMstar Pro 2 C-Flex CPAP Machine and a cpap.com 10 Foot Extra Long CPAP Hose with Rubber Ends also a Universal Hose Connector and a cpap.com Disposable White Filters for Respironics Remstar Lite, Remstar Plus, Remstar Pro, Remstar Auto, Bipap Plus, Bipap Pro 2, Bipap Auto (6 Pack)

I talked to Adam at cpap.com and he was very good at explaining what I needed to get.

So now I have two cpaps. One to put away as a spare, Next thing I need to get is the software and reader for it. geeezzzzzzz what a rip for the software.
Any way now I have another question. Should I go to the clowns at my DME and have them fit me with a new mask. I see that sometimes I get a red mark on my forhead.

I was think about the comfort light 2 set up any thoughts. Also what about the heated hose. I have a humidifer but I have not had to use it yet. (since june 2004) knock on wood.

I have the Fisher & Paykel HC604 CPAP machine. It comes with a built in heated hose. It works well.

floydcs, do you experience the rainout others have seen?

thanks!!

Used my Heated Hose for the first time last night ,no moisture in the mask last night at all ,
I was getting moisture in the mask even without the humidifier
So yeah the hose seems like its a good thing, and you guys can get one sent to the US cheaper than I can get one here in OZ work that one out ,its got me

all the best Jacko

floydcs, do you experience the rainout others have seen?

No, I have not. I may get a little right in the mask, but zero in the hose.

Floydocs-
I started with the HC608 (same as 604 but with automatic altitude/leak compensation) and I realy liked it a lot!!! I found it to be very well built, very user firendly and very quiet. But, i did notice that I was awakening several times throughout the night with the air feeling awful stuffy. I think that this was because of the heated hose warming the air too much. I tried playing with both the comfort and the climate controls, but to no avail.

Have you experienced this problem???

Otherwise, I thought that it was a GREAT CPAP, though I wish it had the capacity to deliver efficacy and not just compliance data.

Chuck

Jacko,
Forgive my ignorance and it is the end of a really long day but where is OZ?

I ordered the heated hose after battling rainout, waking up and having to "empty" the hose. I've used it through winter, spring and summer months. I happen to like a cold house year round and the hose solved my rainout. Wouldn't be without it!

Gday Bonnie
Sorry OZ is Australia right down the bottom ,thats where I am
Regards Jacko

GoofyUT,
Yes, It does seem to really belt out the humidity making it seem stuffy. I personally like to breath cool air. My F&P FF mask seems stuffier, so I use the PB Breeze most all the time and It's easy breathing.
I turn the heat off for the water and use it as a passover. I turn the heated hose up to 2. It may be different in the dead of winter. I've only had the machine since May '06'.
I wanted the 608 for the leak compensation but the DME said they didn't have any.
Yes, I was disappointed F&P doesn't make a machine that will give you more details like Remstar.
I'll probably get a Remstar Auto, someday, against the advice of my Sleep Doc.
I love the details!

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Thanks for the info, Floydocs.

Just out of curiosity, how did you turn the humidifier heat off while leaving the heated hose on?

The UP and DOWN arrows immediatly control the humidity.
You must go in the menu for the hose setting by holding the > button for a few seconds until you see a single number and a small hose icon on the lower left. Then, push the UP or DOWN buttons to get the hose heat you want. It only goes from 0 to 3. When you quit pushing buttons the display will time out and go back to the humidity setting.
Funny thing is the hose doesn't even feel warm. It's just not clammy, more like room temp.