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by **floydcs** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:22 pm

Shoot! That last post was mine. I forgot I cleared my cookies...

Then I see I did the quote box wrong. I somehow put my reply in the quote box...
Silly me! :roll:

by **Guest** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:19 pm

You don't need an APAP to get details. There are CPAP machines that offer the exact same details, such as the Respironics REMstar Pro2 and REMstar Pro M-Series.

Ah yes, Guest. You are correct. I was just saying OF the Remstar models that I would like the Auto. But, who wouldn't... The Pro2 would suite me fine as well.

by **Guest** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:55 am

I have found that I do not need to heat my water in fact I do not like the feeling of it being heated.

Same here. It feels stale and stuffy and mildly suffocating. Cool is what I like... passover humidification only. Heat dial turned off. A/C low in room to keep the intake air cool too. I have no problems with dry mouth... possibly because I'm using a full-face mask.... I never really did understand the philosophy of having two country roads open but deliberately blocking off the superhighway. =)

Yes, I was disappointed F&P doesn't make a machine that will give you more details like Remstar. I'll probably get a Remstar Auto, someday, against the advice of my Sleep Doc.I love the details!

You don't need an APAP to get details. There are CPAP machines that offer the exact same details, such as the Respironics REMstar Pro2 and REMstar Pro M-Series.

by **thisgeek** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:40 pm

Hmm... possibly my HC608 has newer firmware - I've only had it since mid-May.

The humidity setting is the same though - 0-4 in .5 increments.

I've been running the hose at max temp (10) (It's winter here), and the hose definitely feels warm to the touch.

by **GoofyUT** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:01 pm

Nope. Both are the SAME on the 608. I just kept on getting awakewned by how stuffy the air was, from time to time (not consistently) which led me to believe that it was an effect of the hose heating.

by **floydcs** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:44 am

Hmm, sounds like the 608 has a different menu.
I went back to check and the hose heat setting is 1, 2, or 3, not 0 to 3... minor error.
It doesn't go to 10 on the 604, i guess. I wonder if the 608 hose gets warmer.
My humidity goes from 0 to 4 in .5 increments.

by **GoofyUT** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:21 am

I could never find a hose setting on my HC608, at all. All I found was a "comfort" setting and a "climate" setting (accessed trhough the advanced menu, but no setting for the hose -v- the humidifier, and I played with both and could never solve the stuffy air problem, or strike an effective balance between humidification comfort -v- stuffy air.

Chuck

by **thisgeek** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:40 am

floydcs wrote:The UP and DOWN arrows immediatly control the humidity.
You must go in the menu for the hose setting by holding the > button for a few seconds until you see a single number and a small hose icon on the lower left. Then, push the UP or DOWN buttons to get the hose heat you want. It only goes from 0 to 3. When you quit pushing buttons the display will time out and go back to the humidity setting.
Funny thing is the hose doesn't even feel warm. It's just not clammy, more like room temp.

Weird. My HC608's hose temp setting goes up to 10. The humidifier goes up to 4 tho.

by **floydcs** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:11 pm

The UP and DOWN arrows immediatly control the humidity.
You must go in the menu for the hose setting by holding the > button for a few seconds until you see a single number and a small hose icon on the lower left. Then, push the UP or DOWN buttons to get the hose heat you want. It only goes from 0 to 3. When you quit pushing buttons the display will time out and go back to the humidity setting.
Funny thing is the hose doesn't even feel warm. It's just not clammy, more like room temp.

by **GoofyUT** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:59 pm

Thanks for the info, Floydocs.

Just out of curiosity, how did you turn the humidifier heat off while leaving the heated hose on?

by **floydcs** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:49 pm

GoofyUT,
Yes, It does seem to really belt out the humidity making it seem stuffy. I personally like to breath cool air. My F&P FF mask seems stuffier, so I use the PB Breeze most all the time and It's easy breathing.
I turn the heat off for the water and use it as a passover. I turn the heated hose up to 2. It may be different in the dead of winter. I've only had the machine since May '06'.
I wanted the 608 for the leak compensation but the DME said they didn't have any.
Yes, I was disappointed F&P doesn't make a machine that will give you more details like Remstar.
I'll probably get a Remstar Auto, someday, against the advice of my Sleep Doc.
I love the details!

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by **jacko** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:41 pm

Gday Bonnie
Sorry OZ is Australia right down the bottom ,thats where I am
Regards Jacko

by **Bonnie** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:35 pm

Jacko,
Forgive my ignorance and it is the end of a really long day but where is OZ?

I ordered the heated hose after battling rainout, waking up and having to "empty" the hose. I've used it through winter, spring and summer months. I happen to like a cold house year round and the hose solved my rainout. Wouldn't be without it!

by **GoofyUT** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:34 pm

Floydocs-
I started with the HC608 (same as 604 but with automatic altitude/leak compensation) and I realy liked it a lot!!! I found it to be very well built, very user firendly and very quiet. But, i did notice that I was awakening several times throughout the night with the air feeling awful stuffy. I think that this was because of the heated hose warming the air too much. I tried playing with both the comfort and the climate controls, but to no avail.

Have you experienced this problem???

Otherwise, I thought that it was a GREAT CPAP, though I wish it had the capacity to deliver efficacy and not just compliance data.

Chuck

by **floydcs** on Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:25 pm

floydcs, do you experience the rainout others have seen?

No, I have not. I may get a little right in the mask, but zero in the hose.

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