New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

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New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by DeeCPAP » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:46 pm

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NOTE: Below is a link to the study funded by the National Institute of Health -- (NIH) a very credible source of information.

Maybe someone here knows something about Yohimbine, an herb. I just checked and it's sold over-the-counter, but please read the article first. I'd do almost anything not to struggle with a CPAP machine.

LINK:
https://scienceblog.com/492417/dietary- ... eep-apnea/

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by Wulfman... » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:00 pm

NO THANKS!!!

Den

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yohimbine

https://www.drugs.com/cdi/yohimbine.html

https://examine.com/supplements/yohimbine/

Yohimbine is a fat burning compound. Although effective, it may cause anxiety, it adversely interacts with many pharmaceuticals, and the labeled dose of supplements that contain it often does not match the actual dose.

Yohimbe, and its subset yohimbine, are fat-burning compounds, primarily used to lose fat during short term fasting.

Yohimbine is also an aphrodisiac and can aid erectile dysfunction. It is also a general stimulant.

Yohimbine works by increasing adrenaline levels in the body, as well as inhibiting a regulatory process in fat cells, which normally suppresses fat burning.

The effects of yohimbine are partially negated by food intake, which is why it is often taken in a fasted state.


Yohimbe is highly stimulatory

There is a high chance of yohimbine interacting with neurological medication

Many supplements containing yohimbine either do not list its dose, or its dose is inaccurate by up to 150%


Yohimbine can cause extreme anxiety in individuals predisposed to anxiety. Yohimbine may trigger manic psychosis or suicidal episodes in people with bipolar disorder

Yohimbine can interact with a large amount of neurological medications and should not be used in conjunction with these medication without consultation with a doctor

The actual dose of yohimbine in many supplements has been found to vary from the labeled dose from 25-150%


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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by Goofproof » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:05 pm

DeeCPAP wrote:.
NOTE: Below is a link to the study funded by the National Institute of Health -- (NIH) a very credible source of information.

Maybe someone here knows something about Yohimbine, an herb. I just checked and it's sold over-the-counter, but please read the article first. I'd do almost anything not to struggle with a CPAP machine.

LINK:
https://scienceblog.com/492417/dietary- ... eep-apnea/
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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by DeeCPAP » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:52 am

Goofproof wrote:
DeeCPAP wrote:.
NOTE: Below is a link to the study funded by the National Institute of Health -- (NIH) a very credible source of information.

Maybe someone here knows something about Yohimbine, an herb. I just checked and it's sold over-the-counter, but please read the article first. I'd do almost anything not to struggle with a CPAP machine.

LINK:
https://scienceblog.com/492417/dietary- ... eep-apnea/
Are you hooked into D.H.'s Internet feed? Jim
Jim, no. I don't know who you're referring to, but if I found another way (other than surgical or risky) I'd try it in a heartbeat.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by Woody » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:13 am

Seems it may help diabetics but it can also raise blood pressure. The article
I read only showed a 5mm rise in blood pressure but for some of us that might
be a problem.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by lwieland11 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:31 am

Since it's a stimulant, I wonder if stimulants that have already been through clinical trials would be a safer bet until this herb is ready.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by snufy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:28 pm

I knew it!!

I hypothesized that ephedrine made sleep apnea better about 2 years ago....
I knew it from my own experience.

Everyone laughed at me, but I'm just ahead of the curve.

If you don't know yohimbine is often substituted with ephedrine for fat loss, they do very similar things.

They are both quite stimulation heavy like drinking 2-3 red bulls, but my hypothesis is proving correct.

I also lost an easy 30 pounds at that time, but I've gained it back since. I was sleeping HARDDDDD!!! Like childhood hard and on my back.

The other big one was that digestive health was greatly improved! Prefect bowel movements. I also had better bowel movements with NAC, which is also hypothesized to improve sleep apnea.

I'm almost 100% convinvced many cases of sleep apnea have to do with gut health, deficiencies and generally not getting sleep paralysis.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:35 pm

No, you were unconscious--doped out!
Call back when you are clean and sober.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by snufy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:38 pm

The research is trending to the gut relationship more everyday.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by snufy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:41 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:No, you were unconscious--doped out!
Call back when you are clean and sober.

Nope, I know when it's a "good sleep" vs a "poor sleep" I've used a cpap with great compliance as well.

"Doped out" o please, these are hardly drugs, like I said, 400mg of caffeine is about the same stimulation level.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:48 pm

DeeCPAP wrote:I'd do almost anything not to struggle with a CPAP machine.
... people should not begin taking the drug on their own, especially those who also suffer from heart disease, high blood pressure, or anxiety disorders.

“People who have these problems could be at risk if they use yohimbine,” says Poon, the senior author of the study. “Before clinical trials are done, it is not advisable for the general public to try this on their own.”

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The researchers are now hoping to work with pharmaceutical companies to refine the drug and begin tests in patients. Determining effective and safe dosage levels will be a critical step, says Poon, who cautions against anyone trying the drug on their own.
I hope "almost anything" doesn't include taking OTC yohimbe.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by palerider » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:51 pm

snufy wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:No, you were unconscious--doped out!
Call back when you are clean and sober.

Nope, I know when it's a "good sleep" vs a "poor sleep" I've used a cpap with great compliance as well.

"Doped out" o please, these are hardly drugs, like I said, 400mg of caffeine is about the same stimulation level.
pretty sure that they actually are drugs.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by Julie » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:09 pm

Yohimbine is dangerous and you don't want to experiment with it... not if there are already lots of better ways to go.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by snufy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:12 pm

Julie wrote:Yohimbine is dangerous and you don't want to experiment with it... not if there are already lots of better ways to go.
lol... no more dangerous then alcohol or tylenol.

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Re: New Research for Sleep Apnea from NIH

Post by palerider » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:23 pm

snufy wrote:
Julie wrote:Yohimbine is dangerous and you don't want to experiment with it... not if there are already lots of better ways to go.
lol... no more dangerous then alcohol or tylenol.
given that a relatively mild overdose of tylenol can kill you, I'm not overly comforted by your dismissal.

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