Cpap and bronchitis

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Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Jslkw » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:45 pm

I've used a cpap for three weeks now . The main reason for using it is tracheamalacia. My airway is damaged from having so many respiratory infections. It prey much closes when I breathe out. My oxygen drops to 76 percent at night. Anyway, I have bronchitis and the flu. Not sure if I should be using the cpap or not. I remember one of the pulmonologists telling me not to use it when I'm sick because it would just push the mucous farther down. I use nasal pillows. I just used Afrin tmooen ip my sinuses from the congestion.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:15 pm

Turn up your humidifier and use a full face mask. Put some vicks/tiger balm/ eucalyptus on a cotton ball at the air intake. Cpap is the best thing ever for could, flu and pneumonia!

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Jslkw » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:27 pm

I have a full mask but I can never get it to fit without leaking. I tried it earlier but no success the afrin seemed to work enough to use the nasal pillows. Thanks

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:44 pm

Jslkw wrote:I have a full mask but I can never get it to fit without leaking. I tried it earlier but no success the afrin seemed to work enough to use the nasal pillows. Thanks
Use a liner. Make your own out of an old tshirt or a polar fleece scarf. But don't worry about leaks when you are sick. Or your AHI. Focus on comfort and making it through.

When I had pneumonia I even wore it during the day while working from home. The warm humid air was so much easier to breathe.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Janknitz » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:41 pm

Because of the tracheamalacia, you should check in with your pulmonologist but I can tell you that when I have bronchitis, the only time I can get comfortable and stop coughing is when I'm using my CPAP. I can actually sleep, despite bronchitis. It's like a miracle after spending many years of sleepless nights with bronchitis.

I would think having a nice clear airway all night is preferable to apneas and a constricted airway when you sleep. You certainly aren't going to clear mucous any easier if your airway is constricted by inflammation from bronchitis.
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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:49 pm

I used to have bronchitis every year. I have not had it since starting cpap.
Come to think of it, I have not had bronchitis since starting on loratadine, which was earlier.
Whichever it was, I am taking no chances. I continue with both.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by y_not » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:37 am

I use CPAP and also have COPD, the humidifier helps moisten the mucus and I take Carbocisteine tablets to thin the mucus and a "Flutter device" (Google & YouTube for details) to clear the mucus. Might be worth a conversation with your health professional? Good luck

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Jslkw » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:38 am

Thanks everyone for your replies. What is a liner for? I don't quite understand it. I was ok with the nasal pillows last night. I will talk to my pulmonologist when I see her at the end of the month .maybe I can get a different full mask for when I'm sick.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Julie » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:48 am

Go to Padacheek.com and take a look - liners help seal mask leaks that otherwise might be a problem, and in appropriate cases also protect against skin allergies or irritation and red strap marks after wearing the mask, especially if it's on tight.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by Jslkw » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:59 am

Thank u so much Julie. The liner sounds great . I'll try to make one today

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by SewTired » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:40 pm

I would continue to use the cpap, but make an appointment with your primary regarding the bronchitis since you already have damaged lungs.

This article doesn't exactly address your problem, but I thought it was interesting that they seem to attribute increased lung problems with cpap use specifically to lack of person coughing up mucus and/or not cleaning your equipment. While the article is from 2014, I don't know the details of the study. It could be moot since many people now use apap, which may not cause the same issues. Note, when you go to this page, there is a video that automatically starts up on zika virus.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/sleep-apnea ... ria-270464

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by BlackSpinner » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:48 pm

I have been think about this believe that the pressure pushes the mucus into your lungs.

The xpap provides just enough pressure to keep your throat open so you can breathe. You breathe in with help BUT you then breathe OUT against that pressure, so putting more force behind the exhale (you chest muscles let you know you are putting more force behind it because often when you first get your cpap or increase the pressure the HURT) So there is much more force behind the exhale then there is pressure from the xpap. And for every inhale there is a exhale.

Another thing is that you have to put a lot of force behind those coughs to move that mucus, a lot more the breathing against the pressure.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by MrGrumpy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:32 pm

You should be asking your own sleep doc this question offline, not the people on here. This forum is for general advice, not what could be considered emergencies or borderline emergencies. Nobody here could tell you whether or not to continue using your machine under the circumstances you described. I dont even know what tracheamalacia is. Let the buyer beware at this forum...lot of armchair experts. There are people on here who dont even have a valid CPAP prescription and are using CPAP they buy off the Internet and "self treat" themselves 100%!!!!!

Jslkw wrote:I've used a cpap for three weeks now . The main reason for using it is tracheamalacia. My airway is damaged from having so many respiratory infections. It prey much closes when I breathe out. My oxygen drops to 76 percent at night. Anyway, I have bronchitis and the flu. Not sure if I should be using the cpap or not. I remember one of the pulmonologists telling me not to use it when I'm sick because it would just push the mucous farther down. I use nasal pillows. I just used Afrin tmooen ip my sinuses from the congestion.
Id be dead by now if I didn't use my CPAP gear every night.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by BlackSpinner » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:03 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:You should be asking your own sleep doc this question offline, not the people on here. This forum is for general advice, not what could be considered emergencies or borderline emergencies. Nobody here could tell you whether or not to continue using your machine under the circumstances you described. I dont even know what tracheamalacia is. Let the buyer beware at this forum...lot of armchair experts. There are people on here who dont even have a valid CPAP prescription and are using CPAP they buy off the Internet and "self treat" themselves 100%!!!!!

Jslkw wrote:I've used a cpap for three weeks now . The main reason for using it is tracheamalacia. My airway is damaged from having so many respiratory infections. It prey much closes when I breathe out. My oxygen drops to 76 percent at night. Anyway, I have bronchitis and the flu. Not sure if I should be using the cpap or not. I remember one of the pulmonologists telling me not to use it when I'm sick because it would just push the mucous farther down. I use nasal pillows. I just used Afrin tmooen ip my sinuses from the congestion.
Except that a lot of doctors know even less then you.

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Re: Cpap and bronchitis

Post by SewTired » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:49 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:You should be asking your own sleep doc this question offline, not the people on here. This forum is for general advice, not what could be considered emergencies or borderline emergencies.
While I agree with you on that, I pointed out to the OP that they should make appointment with Primary. The sleep doctor isn't going to help him in any way with a current illness. He'll just pass him back to the primary.

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