Water won't last the night

I'm trying a new machine and I'm really trying to stick to it. I've noticed the first few nights that the water does not last the night. The first night I used my new machine I slept six hours for the first time in a long time, but the water was empty and added to my dry mouth. I am a mouth breather (im looking for a chin strap even though I think I have enough stuff strapped to my head). I think the water running out adds to my dry mouth and that is what wakes me before I want to. I have been using a dry mouth remedy that does help until it's gone.

How can I get the water to last longer? My system is on two. My home is dry. I have added Humidifiers and can get to 45-50 percent. Should I add a vaporizer to my bedroom?

Thanks

Morgan

You didn't say which CPAP machine you have. I have the Respironics Dream Station, and have the same issue. I don't believe that I have serious leakage, even though Sleepyhead says that I do (it's a known issue with Sleepyhead). I usually get up at least once in the night, so I refill.

The obvious way to make it last is to use less (i.e. lower the humidity settings).

Please update with your equipment as solutions often depend on what you have at hand. I personally have never had this problem, but reducing leaks is usually the first line of defense. If all else fails, you can tandem in another humidifier. This is what I was going to get for my brother until we figured out how to resolve his leaks. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... ifier.html. Hopefully, someone with much more experience than I can give you some advice on this before bedtime tonight!

Coachd4461 wrote:How can I get the water to last longer?

Keep your mouth shut. If you are using a nasal mask and your mouth opens, there will be high usage of humidifier water.

Opening the mouth with a nasal mask can also cause loss of the therapeutic pressure, and you might still be having many apneas.

Coachd4461 wrote:I have added Humidifiers and can get to 45-50 percent. Should I add a vaporizer to my bedroom?

What do you mean by 45-50 percent? Are you talking about the relative humidity in your bedroom? If so, you are already within a healthy range for indoor relative humidity. Adding a vaporizer is a bad idea.



Your problem is the mouth opening while using a nasal mask. Let's work on a solution to this problem. Please fill out your equipment profile - https://www.cpaptalk.com/ucp.php?i=prof ... pment_info

D.H. wrote:I have the Respironics Dream Station, and have the same issue. I don't believe that I have serious leakage, even though Sleepyhead says that I do (it's a known issue with Sleepyhead). I usually get up at least once in the night, so I refill.

You are on here regularly offering tons of advice, and you don't even have your own CPAP therapy under control?

D.H. wrote:I don't believe that I have serious leakage, even though Sleepyhead says that I do (it's a known issue with Sleepyhead). I usually get up at least once in the night, so I refill.

D.H.
I haven't seen any issue with Sleepyhead leak reporting. Maybe you should take a closer look at yours.

Morgan,
When we know your equipment it will be easier to help. A bedroom humidifier does help for some people but lets look at your equipment first.

Sorry for not posting my equipment. I have an Amara View full face mask and a Philips Respironics DreamStation.

Guest wrote:Sorry for not posting my equipment. I have an Amara View full face mask and a Philips Respironics DreamStation.

If you register your equipment in your profile it will show up in each of your posts. Here is a link to help you. wiki/index.php/Registering_Equipment_in_User_Profile

There are several Dreamstation models, do you know which you have? This link may help you find yours. If it is anything but the CPAP model you will have data that you can read on your computer with free Sleephead software. That might help us to find if there are leaks. Do you feel any mask leaks around your cushion where it seals on your face?
Like ChicagoGranny said if you are quoting 45 - 50% humidity in your bedroom. That should be within a comfortable range.

It looks like on you last post you were not logged in so if you did have the equipment registered it wouldn't show up.

It is a DSX500H11. While I'm awake I don't feel any leaks. I do move around while I sleep, so I'm not sure if it leaks then.

Coachd4461 wrote:It is a DSX500H11. While I'm awake I don't feel any leaks. I do move around while I sleep, so I'm not sure if it leaks then.

Great, that's a full data machine. This link will tell you how to download Sleepyhead and then see if that gives you any clue to dry mouth. Here's a link to help. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead
Dry mouth can be caused by many things with mouth breathing is at the top for cpap users. But medications and other medical issues can also be the cause. At least with a FF mask you aren't loosing therapy.
Do you have problems breathing through your nose? If not try to breathe through it during the day with the tip of your tongue at the roof of your mouth behind your teeth. Sometimes this habit will carry over into the night and the tongue will block the air out of the mouth. Some people tape their mouth, use soft cervical collars, or chin straps.
Some also add a secondary humidifier in line to their machine.
So you can see it is very individual and takes some playing with the settings to find your just right spot. We use wood in the fireplace in the winter and it does make the humidity sometimes harder to get enough. I have dry mouth without mouth breathing and very little leaks, so I try to prevent it by using Orajel for Dry Mouth before bed and keep Biotene spray by my bed.

ChicagoGranny wrote:

D.H. wrote:I have the Respironics Dream Station, and have the same issue. I don't believe that I have serious leakage, even though Sleepyhead says that I do (it's a known issue with Sleepyhead). I usually get up at least once in the night, so I refill.

You are on here regularly offering tons of advice, and you don't even have your own CPAP therapy under control?

Wrong! My ask fit is 100%, my AHI is never above 2 and generally below 1. I have no significant leakage except according to SleppyHead, but not according to Dreammapper. This is a known issue with SleepyHead, not a "real" problem.

D.H. wrote:

ChicagoGranny wrote:

D.H. wrote:I have the Respironics Dream Station, and have the same issue. I don't believe that I have serious leakage, even though Sleepyhead says that I do (it's a known issue with Sleepyhead). I usually get up at least once in the night, so I refill.

You are on here regularly offering tons of advice, and you don't even have your own CPAP therapy under control?

Wrong! My ask fit is 100%, my AHI is never above 2 and generally below 1. I have no significant leakage except according to SleppyHead, but nat according to Dreammapper. This is a known issue with SleepyHead, not a "real" problem.

Are you sure the mask straps are not squeezing your head?

Coachd4461 wrote:It is a DSX500H11. While I'm awake I don't feel any leaks. I do move around while I sleep, so I'm not sure if it leaks then.

If you're not monitoring your therapy with software, get Sleepyhead and SEE what's going on during the night.

Try turning your humidifier setting DOWN (or Off). Too much warm humid air can actually make nasal congestion worse.
If you have nasal congestion, do some nasal cleansing before bedtime.
I was a life-long mouth-breather before I started this therapy and figured out by using cool "passover" humidification and doing nasal cleansing, I became a nasal breather while I sleep. I also use a full face mask.
Sometimes, the things that seem contradictory are what may actually work to make the therapy better.


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Now I need to remember to top off my water tank when my shoulder pain wakes me up.
What a plan!
The doctor thinks I might have a damaged rotator cuff; but I either have to have a cortisone shot (EFF THAT),
or go to PT for Lord knows how long until I can get an MRI.
Ain't getting old a kick in the shorts!

The doctor thinks I might have a damaged rotator cuff; but I either have to have a cortisone shot (EFF THAT),
or go to PT for Lord knows how long until I can get an MRI.

Several years ago i had a "torn rotator cuff". The ortho surgeon/sports doctor said I would need an MRI and surgery. The next day I ran into a friendly chiropractor he tweaked me for a few minutes and I never went back to the surgeon. A couple years latter I did something stupid at the gym and recognized the pain in the rotator cuff immediately. This time my primary care doctor/DO fixed it.

I strongly recomend a good chiropractor as a first line of defence against ortho surgeons.