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Post by dutchiecpap » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:27 am

Hi All, first post here for me and a moan straight off the bat, sorry

On Facebook I see a number of adverts from companies offering "oral appliances" claiming they will cure your sleep apnea and snoring and I find it very frustrating and am left wondering how they can post inaccurate statements whilst claiming to be FDA approved?
First of all it is not a cure as you still have the condition (if the device even works at all), and secondly, whilst people who snore a lot have a higher risk of sleep apnea, snoring is not a guarantee that you will have sleep apnea.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by LSAT » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:35 am

I think the FDA approval means its safe...not necessarily that it will work.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:55 pm

dutchiecpap wrote:FDA
FDA or EMA?

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by dutchiecpap » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:33 am

@Granny They claim FDA
@lsat thanks, you are probably right but the way they present it they want you to believe that it works

Main frustrating thing for me is that they prey on people without health insurance and try to get them to buy something that without proper testing can't be proven to help at all

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:55 am

As long as the coyote brought the ball, we have to play by his rules.
It doesn't mean it's right, or fair. Just who owns the ball.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by Goofproof » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:14 pm

Many ads are targeted by your Internet use, odds are you visited sites that promote the ads you are getting. Facebook or Addbook as I call them, has increased ad revenue by leaps and bounds. I don't get those ads like you are getting, everytime I see a ad on Facebook I block it. A but the only one I don't block is Avast. Jim

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:32 pm

Every day, it seems like there is a new reason NOT to join Facebook.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by zoocrewphoto » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:01 pm

There are commercials on tv advertising beds that you can raise that will stop snoring. It may or may not work (i can snore badly while vertical). But it also may lead people to go many years undiagnosed because they think they are fine. There are also anti-snoring pillows. I have seen ads on craigslist for mattress stores that claim their beds are good for sleep apnea. It's all a crock, but they are allowed to make these claims.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by curems » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:47 am

Goofproof wrote: Advisors are like politicans, if their lips are moving, they are lying, we have to be smart enough to not fall for the lies.
Just curious - did you mean advisors or advertisers?

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by AlabamaAl » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:27 am

zoocrewphoto wrote:There are commercials on tv advertising beds that you can raise that will stop snoring. It may or may not work (i can snore badly while vertical). But it also may lead people to go many years undiagnosed because they think they are fine. There are also anti-snoring pillows. I have seen ads on craigslist for mattress stores that claim their beds are good for sleep apnea. It's all a crock, but they are allowed to make these claims.
I don't know about anyone else, but before cpap, you could have hung me upside down like a bat, and I would still snore like a freight train pulling a steep grade... position did not matter. The only way a pillow would have helped would have been to put it over my face.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by zoocrewphoto » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:05 am

AlabamaAl wrote:
zoocrewphoto wrote:There are commercials on tv advertising beds that you can raise that will stop snoring. It may or may not work (i can snore badly while vertical). But it also may lead people to go many years undiagnosed because they think they are fine. There are also anti-snoring pillows. I have seen ads on craigslist for mattress stores that claim their beds are good for sleep apnea. It's all a crock, but they are allowed to make these claims.
I don't know about anyone else, but before cpap, you could have hung me upside down like a bat, and I would still snore like a freight train pulling a steep grade... position did not matter. The only way a pillow would have helped would have been to put it over my face.
I can relate to that. I have been told that I do not snore when I sleep in the car (upright), but I have woken myself up plenty of times while sitting upright in a recliner, or on the couch. I would snort myself awake, so I know I was loud and annoying. I've been sent to bed because I was disturbing everybody else. I have tried sleeping propped up. No luck. My sister thought I was better when I would roll over, but what she didn't realize is that I was only quiet because I was uncomfortable and unable to sleep on that side. It was a blessed for us both when I started cpap. We could travel together, and we could both sleep at the same time

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:12 am

Some people's apnea is, however, at least PARTLY positional,
and these people are often encouraged -even by their doctors--to pursue solutions that address position.
Sadly, these people are less inclined to use therapy, even when positional training is only PARTLY effective.
Advertisers capitalize on ignorance and self-diagnosis to make a buck.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by zoocrewphoto » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:27 am

chunkyfrog wrote:Some people's apnea is, however, at least PARTLY positional,
and these people are often encouraged -even by their doctors--to pursue solutions that address position.
Sadly, these people are less inclined to use therapy, even when positional training is only PARTLY effective.
Advertisers capitalize on ignorance and self-diagnosis to make a buck.

True, but tv commercials with anti-snoring sprays, pillows, and mattresses really give the impression that sleep apnea is no big deal. No wonder so many people (like me) avoid diagnosis and treatment for decades. It is not treated with any seriousness. I just saw a doctor on tv this morning talking about dreams. She explained that being chased usually means we have some emotional stress we are dealing with. Same with drowning. Come on, doctors. Those are classic signs of sleep apnea. I had those nightmares all the time. And since starting cpap 3 years ago, I have only had that type of dream if I fell asleep without my mask.

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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by Goofproof » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:10 am

curems wrote:
Goofproof wrote: Advisors are like politicans, if their lips are moving, they are lying, we have to be smart enough to not fall for the lies.
Just curious - did you mean advisors or advertisers?
Android spell check failure, you type the correct word in, it changes it to whatever it wants jim
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Re: Facebook Adverts

Post by Goofproof » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:14 am

dutchiecpap wrote:Hi All, first post here for me and a moan straight off the bat, sorry

On Facebook I see a number of adverts from companies offering "oral appliances" claiming they will cure your sleep apnea and snoring and I find it very frustrating and am left wondering how they can post inaccurate statements whilst claiming to be FDA approved?
First of all it is not a cure as you still have the condition (if the device even works at all), and secondly, whilst people who snore a lot have a higher risk of sleep apnea, snoring is not a guarantee that you will have sleep apnea.
You probably clicked on a news link at the top of the forum, that site sets a cookie, Facebook uses your Internet history to bombard you with unwanted adds, welcome to addbook. Jim
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