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climateline hose

Post by sharhamm2 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:10 am

Confused on this hose. My room temperature is around 78-80. Machine is set to default setting of 80. I would like to have more humidity. I know how to adjust the machine but what setting would increase the humidity to help get rid of this horrible dry mouth?

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Re: climateline hose

Post by Julie » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:05 am

Don't use that brand, so don't know the answer, but have you tried a FF mask?

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Re: climateline hose

Post by Sharhamm2 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:27 am

Yes, have tried a FF Mask. Unable to get a good seal and had to go to a nasal mask.

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Re: climateline hose

Post by SGearhart » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:40 am

Dry mouth usually is a sign of mouth breathing. Unless you hold your head underwater, I don't know of a humidity setting that is high enough on the machine. The auto mode, that you seem to be operating in, should provide a 80% humidity level. based on the hose temperature. If you are using a ClimateLine, you could try upping the temperature. Hotter air can support more moisture. Also, you could change the hose parameters to "Manual" and adjust the humidity level, as well as, the temperature.

Another consideration is a chin strap to try and alleviate any mouth breathing.

I hope this may help.

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Re: climateline hose

Post by CaptainRaven40 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:06 am

I have a question about the ClimateLine hose as well. I was wondering if you could use this hose with a hose cover and it still perform how it needs to. The reason I am curious is because of the kind of bed I have. It has a wooden frame and when I move in the night if the hose moves it moves along the wooden frame and makes a huge noise that wakes me and my wife. So I was just wondering if this would be a solution for that. Thanks in advance for any help! Cheers!

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Re: climateline hose

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:16 am

While it is true warmer air will hold more water if you are using automatic mode and thus the 80% humidity then turning up the temp just turns up the air temp and won't really add more moisture.
Now you can set the humidity and temperature controls to manual (off of automatic) and you can try setting the humidity setting to maximum and then use a temperature of your choice. Now whether the maximum setting for humidity is going to be more than 80% on automatic we don't know because your ambient room temp is very likely to really impact things.
Might be worth a try.

But the main reason for dry mouth is mouth breathing (unless you take meds that dry out the mouth or have some other health condition) and the humidifier may not be physically able of cranking out enough moisture to rehydrate the oral cavity. It's just too big. The humidifier was designed mainly to hydrate the nasal cavity.

It doesn't take a lot of mouth breathing to dry out the mouth...mine will dry out something awful with as little as 5 minutes of mouth breathing.
You do need to evaluate your leak reports to see if you are mouth breathing enough to maybe seriously impact your therapy. I don't worry about 5 minutes here or there but I would worry about 50 minutes.
So you might check those leak graphs just to make sure you aren't spending half the night mouth breathing with leaks so far into large leak territory that half the night your therapy is seriously compromised.

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Re: climateline hose

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:25 am

CaptainRaven40 wrote:I have a question about the ClimateLine hose as well. I was wondering if you could use this hose with a hose cover and it still perform how it needs to.
Yes, you can still use a hose cover and many people do use either the fleece covers or the ResMed non fleece cover (I have the non fleece cover) for just the reasons you state or maybe they just don't like the feel of the hose.
With the hose cover the air temp will stay at the temp selected more easily due to the insulation of the hose cover.
Humidity delivery is going to be unaffected by a hose cover except in the situation where someone is using separate settings for temp and humidity and they choose a really low temp with a high humidity setting and the bedroom temp is rather cool...that's a ripe combination for rain out happening...in that case the hose cover would actually help prevent rain out.

I mention this because I did it one time...can't remember why I decided to change from automatic but I did
change to manual...and set the humidity to max and set hose temp to 68 degrees and the bedroom was on the cold side as it was in the winter....and I woke up in the middle of the night with water in the hose and in the mask and all over me because of the rain out. I would have been okay if I had set the hose temp to 78 or 80 degrees.....or had my ResMed skinny hose cover on the hose but I didn't.

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Re: climateline hose

Post by CaptainRaven40 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:29 am

Pugsy you have once again hit the nail on the head. As with the leaks I am with you on that one. If it just just 5 minutes I am not going to be overly concerned and fretting over it. I am not going to run out and by a chin strap or a mouth guard. I do want to get the most out of my therapy, but for me there is a line where you go overboard.

Pugsy thank you for the response on the hose cover. You once again come in with the knowledge that I need. As for your story... Sounds like something that would happen to me!

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Re: climateline hose

Post by Cardsfan » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:34 am

I have a snuggle hose cover on my climate line hose. Works fine. Keeps it from rubbing and making noise on the headboard it is draped over.

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Re: climateline hose

Post by sharhamm2 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:02 pm

Thanks for the information. Tonight I will turn up the setting to 82 and tape my mouth and see how that goes. My leak rates are normally in the 6-8 range but last night was 14. Nothing over 50minutes.