Acting Weird In My Sleep

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Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by sleepwiggler » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:48 pm

Hi All,
Lately I have been doing a lot of dreaming and talking in my sleep, raising my arms in the air basically acting out the dream. I noticed about a month ago and I set my trail cam up one night and I videoed myself and sure enough you could tell I was moving my mouth and raising my arms in the air. One night I was having an argument with someone in my dreams and I yelled something at them in the dream and I remember doing it out load as well and then I swung my arm and forcefully knocked everything off my bedside table and then did it again. I remember doing these this but cannot always remember what I did or said. Is there a way to video and audio record? I find this interesting and troubling at the same time as I already have hard time sleeping and I never feel completely rested. Would it be wise to invest in a chin strap?

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by sleepinow » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:58 pm

You can maybe invest in a night vision camera or one that works in low light and maybe just have a small light on while you sleep. They have some available on amazon but I do not know which ones are good. People review the products there so it may be wise to read some reviews before making your decision and just making sure that the camera has audio

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:19 pm

Have you looked at your data? (downloaded into reports)


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Post by LSAT » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:26 pm

sleepinow wrote:You can maybe invest in a night vision camera or one that works in low light and maybe just have a small light on while you sleep. They have some available on amazon but I do not know which ones are good. People review the products there so it may be wise to read some reviews before making your decision and just making sure that the camera has audio
He is asking about investing in a chin strap...not a camera

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by Goofproof » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:01 pm

I don't see where a chin straight would help unless it's long enough to tie yourself down in bed. Are you taking any med's? I'd be more interested in bed sides to stop me falling out of bed. Jim
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Post by yaconsult » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:58 pm

Yes, the OP wasn't very clear. I think he's asking about chinstraps because he's wondering if his therapy is ineffective due to mouth breathing.

As others said, it's time to look at your data with sleepyhead and see what is happening all night - whether you are sleeping well or not, or having breathing issues that may require adjustment.

How long have you been on cpap? People new to cpap often notice a big difference in dreaming at the beginning.

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by sleepwiggler » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:56 am

Ok let me clear this up I was asking about a chin strap to possibly help keep me from talking in my sleep which is going to produce a leak. Second I was also a cheap but effective night vision camera that has sound as well.

I have been on my cpap for a little over 2 years. As for meds I take KLONPIN and Requip 4mg each for RLS (yes I know by others that is too much Requip) also I take lexapro, Metformin, liptor, metoprol. I have been taking these drugs for almost as long as I have been on cpap except the Klonpin and Requip which I been been taking since around 2008.

I don't think checking my data will help for why I am throwing my arms around and acting out my dreams. As for the not sleeping well and never feeling fully rested well I take Provigil to help with the daytime effects of that.

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Post by Julie » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:34 am

The drug 'soup' you've been taking seems to have reached a serious place that your doctor needs to look into (maybe together with a neuropharmacologist or someone like that) as I think you could be doing real damage to yourself. Just because something does not backfire for even up to 2 yrs in an obvious way, does not mean it's harmless. I'd be quite concerned if I were you and not fool around - I think your doctor has been negligent in not following up more closely with you.

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Post by Wulfman... » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:59 pm

sleepwiggler wrote:Ok let me clear this up I was asking about a chin strap to possibly help keep me from talking in my sleep which is going to produce a leak. Second I was also a cheap but effective night vision camera that has sound as well.

I have been on my cpap for a little over 2 years. As for meds I take KLONPIN and Requip 4mg each for RLS (yes I know by others that is too much Requip) also I take lexapro, Metformin, liptor, metoprol. I have been taking these drugs for almost as long as I have been on cpap except the Klonpin and Requip which I been been taking since around 2008.

I don't think checking my data will help for why I am throwing my arms around and acting out my dreams. As for the not sleeping well and never feeling fully rested well I take Provigil to help with the daytime effects of that.
From that remark, I suspect you don't use software or check your data at all.
You don't think that having lots of events and your oxygen going low would affect your dreams?
And, I agree with Julie. Your drug "cocktail" may very well have an effect on your dreams, too.


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Post by OkyDoky » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:19 pm

I would look at my data as others have suggested. Review my medications with a pharmacist to see if they might contribute. And then talk with my sleep doctor about REM Sleep Behavior Disorder if it is a continuing problem. http://www.sleepeducation.com/sleep-dis ... r-disorder
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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by sleepwiggler » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:52 pm

I have not checked data in a while. As far as med soup I have to take the metformin and l ipitor along with metoprol. I am actually considering see a neurologist for my rls because I agree that it is too much but my symptoms are controlled at the current dosage. I am ready to try something different. As for the lexapro I was and have been down for a long time. I go to dark places and it has been an issue lomg before my rls and osa. I just recently talked to my doctor about it. I actually have an appointment with my sleep doctor next month and I see my GP every 3 months. Anyway I may request a new study and I am going to talk to him about options on mu meds, but leaning towards seeing a neurologist as well

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by ephraimh » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:56 pm

I think you are having adverse reactions to that whole mix. I would go to my doctor and politely demand he address these possibilities. Doctors seldom tell patients about the very, very rare side effects of drugs because "Oh, I don't think that will happen." Don't ever take that from a doctor. A doctor who will not volunteer that information is dangerous.

Do you have any idea of when your dreaming and night time movements began. i.e., began using cpap or after changing a drug or dose?

If you're getting more rem sleep with cpap you might be dreaming more & they might become more vivid.

a quick search of the possible side effects of your drugs shows that provigil can, though seldom cause:
feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/provigil-side-effects.html

and metformin:
seizures
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/metformin-side-effects.html

and lexapro:
convulsions
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/lexapro-side-effects.html



check this for your drugs and tardive dyskensia.
http://factmed.com/study-lexapro-causin ... INESIA.php

http://factmed.com/study-PROVIGIL-causi ... INESIA.php

http://factmed.com/study-metformin-caus ... INESIA.php

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by borgready » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:16 am

I would say the chin strap is a bad idea. If you need to mouth breathe to get air then you want that option available.

Sounds like your dreams are leaning to the fighting and combative type. You get these dreams when you are not getting enough air. Why are you not getting enough air? Well start looking at your ability to breathe though your nose. Is you nose stuffy? If not, then start looking at the drugs your taking. Do any of these drugs interfere with your breathing. Yes. I don't know why you are taking what you are taking. But you might want to see what you absolutely need and which ones you can get off of. The next big question is do certain drugs enhance the effects of others. Drugs that inhibit breathing are drugs you might want to get off of.

How vivid do your dreams get? The more vivid they are the deeper you are getting into going without breathing. At some point this will take its toll on your health.

What do you dream about and who do you dream about? What type of themes are your dreams about? Sex, fighting, chasing, scary things, death themed, dead relative or friends or whatever?

Are any of those drugs you are on psych drugs where they alter the brain chemistry? If so this instability can make dreams vivid.

I would say start to monitor you 02 with a pulse oximeter and anything in the low 90s and below shows your having breathing issues. If your 02 stays in the mid 90s or above the it likely the meds are screwing with your mind.

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by sleepwiggler » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:12 am

To try to answer the many questions. Every time I am prescribed a new drug I look for interactions and all side effects I don't take my doctors word. Also the dreams or the part I remember are usually argumentative. One was with a co worker that I really don't like, but we get along fine at work. The others I have no I idea who they are with and I can only remember yelling or using a few colorful expletives and throwing hands in the air or knocking stuff off table. As for measuring oxygen where do I get one of those pulse things at.

Lastly I am in the process of deciding on a new mask the one I have I just don't feel is giving me what I need and very uncomfortable. I got a large Quattro from one of the members on here and tried it last night. I think I like the full mask better but the large is a bit big however I made it work with a few adjustments. I want to try th Airfit F10 but wanted to check sizing before shelling out the clams. I am not sure my insurance will pay for a new mask since I just one but I will talk to them.Even with the switch to the mask it did not stop the dreams because I remember jumping in bed. I was on my back and it was like my torso just came off the bed and I yelled something in the mask. I only mention the mask because as of this posting this is about my normal wake up time and I can tell a little difference. I have a lot of research and decisions to make about my treatment and who or where I am getting it from as I am not really happy with the service I receive from my GP my sleep doctor listens but I don't think he knows his a** from a whole in the as far as rls treatment.

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Re: Acting Weird In My Sleep

Post by palerider » Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:16 pm

sleepwiggler, please be aware that borgready pops into the forum on a semi regular basis with wildly unsubstantiated theories, and has never once, to my knowledge, provided any references to back up any of the things he says.

for instance, anybody with even the tiniest bit of thought can understand, and prove, that you can breath quite easily through the mouth while wearing a chinstrap. chinstraps don't seal the lips, and teeth aren't airtight. try it, clench your jaw and breath through your open lips

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