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Australian cpap prices

Post by david598 » Fri May 22, 2015 6:30 am

[code][quote][/quote][/code]As an Australian cpap user I have had enough of being ripped off with Australian prices. I have been purchasing most of my products from america due the much cheaper prices.
Now companies like Resmed are not allowing American suppliers to send Resmed back to Australia for a fraction of the price we van buy it here for.
So how do we fight back. I say lets BLACKBAN Resmed and other companies.
Don't buy their products at rip off prices. There are several products we can buy from America other than Resmed And save ourselves a fortune.
Stand up and say enough is enough. Fight back.
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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Krelvin » Fri May 22, 2015 6:44 am

No problems getting Resmed products shipped to the US. Even the ones made in Australia.

Think about it, why do you think a product made in Australia costs more in Australia than one made in Australia and sold in the US? Sounds like an Australian issue. Why are DME's in Australia ripping off their countrymen worse than DME's in other countries?

Why does your country allow companies to rip you off on a regular basis for a wide variety of products include electronically generated one that have no shipping related costs?

Maybe you should move.
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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Julie » Fri May 22, 2015 6:56 am

Register with Reship.com and you may not have a problem. I say 'may' because I don't know enough about technicalities, but see what they say.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by chunkyfrog » Fri May 22, 2015 9:01 am

I would blame the Australian regulators, as the ripoff seems to be happening With all brands!
Organize your countrymen, and fix the problem in your country.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Fri May 22, 2015 9:54 am

I've read in past posts that Americans have it pretty good price-wise on ResMed products. We occasionally have people from the Middle East, Asia, Russia and so forth asking if anyone is selling CPAP machines. It must indicate they get a better deal buying in the US and then shipping.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by palerider » Fri May 22, 2015 10:14 am

Krelvin wrote:No problems getting Resmed products shipped to the US. Even the ones made in Australia.

Think about it, why do you think a product made in Australia costs more in Australia than one made in Australia and sold in the US? Sounds like an Australian issue. Why are DME's in Australia ripping off their countrymen worse than DME's in other countries?

Why does your country allow companies to rip you off on a regular basis for a wide variety of products include electronically generated one that have no shipping related costs?

Maybe you should move.
australia's rapidly turning to shit...

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by 308hjute » Fri May 22, 2015 3:44 pm

I actually had my sleep specialist say to me yesterday that even though he wasn't recommending or advising me too, that consumables such as masks etc are available more cheaply via the 'net. I grinned and said I was quite aware of that fact. Didn't have the heart to tell him that I bought a brand new AirSense 10 for less than $1,000 shipped here from the US as opposed to the $2,400 they want for them here.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by billbolton » Fri May 22, 2015 6:01 pm

308hjute wrote:I Didn't have the heart to tell him that I bought a brand new AirSense 10 for less than $1,000 shipped here from the US as opposed to the $2,400 they want for them here.
I just laid out AUD$1299 for a brand new AIrsense 10 here in Sydney, with extended warranty and no shipping risks! It took me about 10 minutes on Google to find the relevant offers

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Australian cpap prices

Post by JustinD9 » Sat May 23, 2015 7:47 am

I believe the U.S. Is an anomaly when it comes to flow machine pricing. In large part it's due to the baseline pricing for the machines as set by the Medicare determined price. The level is very low. That's why the manufacturers pushed for and received better coverage on masks and consumables. It's no coincidence that insurance generally covers the replacement of pillows every two weeks in the U.S. whereas people in other countries happily use them for markedly more extended periods of time (6-18mths). Simply look at Resmed's revenue on masks in the U.S. Vs flow generators and compare to other geographical segments - the proportions are very different and this is driven, in part, by the higher consumption, per CPAP user of masks and consumables. As they say in Oz, "swings and roundabouts". That said, we still do pay a lot as our public insurance covers only the sleep test and nothing more, and private only gives $500-900 for the machine.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Woody » Sat May 23, 2015 1:59 pm

Could there be some import duty involved in this higher price ? The reason
I ask this is there at least one other type of import that cost about twice as
much in Australia as in the USA and that is loudspeakers. That is if a fellow
wants to build his own speakers the woffer he can buy in the U.S.A. or Canidia
for $100 will cost him about $200 in Australia .

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by RipSnorter » Sat May 23, 2015 3:00 pm

With the price difference, I would suggest it's cheaper to fly to the US, pick up a machine and fly back with it than pay the australian prices.

The problem is not the regulator - it's good old fashioned selfish greed.

I was horrified to find that my health insurer tried to refuse to pay their part in the purchase because I bought my machine from the US. Their arguments were so stupid it was offensive. Arguments like "You need to buy a machine from a supplier approved by CPAP Australia". When I explained that CPAP Australia is not a regulatory body and is in fact just another seller, they continued to push on about it.

I just lost it with them and asked them why my Health insurer is supporting cartel activity here in Australia.

It now appears that Resmed are now also supporting the Australian Cartel. As a consequence, I agree to blackball resumed - I refuse to pay any money that will benefit any business that is involved in what is obviously a clear attempt at rooting people who need this equipment in order to breathe.

If the sellers in Australia could learn anything about basic economics -i.e. by lowering pries, they might sell more and make more money, instead of just being a greedy cartel trying to manipulate the market instead of being entrepreneurs, then this situation simply would not exist. I would prefer to buy local for the advice, support and faster shipping, but it appears many Australian businesses in this area are just trying to make a quick buck (and will whine about how us evil consumers are ripping them off).

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Krelvin » Sat May 23, 2015 3:09 pm

The funny thing about Resmed products is that many of them are manufactured IN Australia.... Example:

Mask I just got (in the US)

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Note where it is made? Australia... There is no real legitimate reason other than gouging that would allow this product to cost more in Australia than in the US.

BTW my S9 VPAP Auto is from Australia as well.
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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by sol » Sat May 23, 2015 3:44 pm

billbolton wrote:
308hjute wrote:I Didn't have the heart to tell him that I bought a brand new AirSense 10 for less than $1,000 shipped here from the US as opposed to the $2,400 they want for them here.
I just laid out AUD$1299 for a brand new AIrsense 10 here in Sydney, with extended warranty and no shipping risks! It took me about 10 minutes on Google to find the relevant offers
Could you please give us the link of the supplier?
Thanks

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by RipSnorter » Sat May 23, 2015 3:49 pm

sol wrote:
billbolton wrote:
308hjute wrote:I Didn't have the heart to tell him that I bought a brand new AirSense 10 for less than $1,000 shipped here from the US as opposed to the $2,400 they want for them here.
I just laid out AUD$1299 for a brand new AIrsense 10 here in Sydney, with extended warranty and no shipping risks! It took me about 10 minutes on Google to find the relevant offers
Could you please give us the link of the supplier?
Thanks
Wow - that looks like there might be a supplier in australia who isn't stupid or greedy - when I was looking, the cheapest was $2,200 - more than double the price of buying form the US.

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Re: Australian cpap prices

Post by Greendirt » Sat May 23, 2015 4:42 pm

Part of the premium price charged in Australia is that they provide post-sales 'support', which amounts to making pressure adjustments for you. In the US you can buy just the machine with no 'support' premium built in. Another part is that Australia is a higher cost economy than the US, thus lots of things are more costly here than in the US. There's also organised greed: read the industry literature and lobbying material. OSA is a gold mine and easy medicine. Great combo for some. Sum it all up, and you get the pricing difference.

My first sleep doc worked from a clinic owned (per the business registration) by a woman with the same surname and home address as him. When I told the clinic nurse that I wouldn't buy their $2500 machine and support, but I'd get everything I needed from the US for a fraction of the price and just see the doctor when I needed to, the nurse said that was illegal (absolutely false, the regulator has a personal importation scheme to cover this sort of thing), that the machines in the US were designed for American physiology, not Australian (WTF? WTF? WTF? But I later saw that that is an industry argument against personal importation. Thus a lie for the scared), and then the kicker: the Dr won't support your use of that machine and won't advise you on its use. Thus, what use is the Dr? I thought I was sacked by the Dr via the nurse employed by someone who might be his wife because I wouldn't pay the premium for their 'service and support'. I self-managed for a while before getting a proper doctor.

The bottom line is that the market is made inefficient by use of anticompetitive tactics, which are illegal. And I think the Dr was on the edge of the law, and over an ethical line for doctors.