Airfit p10 Vs Swift Fx

I've been using the Airfit p10 nasal pillow mask for the last year and it's been great. Howver, the headgear is finally starting to wear out and it needs to be replaced. I've thought about just replacing the headgear, but while looking online I kinda want to try the Swift Fx nasal mask with the Bella loops. I know reviews are always going to be mixed depending on your preferences. However, one thing I've read is that the Swift Fx is much louder than the Airfit p10. Anyone have experience with this?

I used the FX for years before moving to the P10 late last year. The noise is the less diffused exhaust in the FX frame. It blows a directed stream of air that is loud when it impacts bed covers, your arm or your bed partner.

The headgear is more stable, and the pillow frame is a bit larger, but with a swivel built in. That can keep the mask in place better than the Airfit. I personally won't be going back, but for some people it's the cat's ass.

The noise level is sort of relative to what you are comparing it to.
I started therapy with the Swift LT as the Swift FX wasn't even available yet. I found the Swift LT to be noisier than the Swift FX but with the progression to the P10 the venting did become nearly silent. The Swift FX is still less noisy than some of the other nasal pillow masks. It's not like it is hugely noisy overall. If it had been then it wouldn't have been nearly as popular as it ended up being.

So yes...the FX is noisier than the P10 but it's still less than some of the others. Will it be something that is an issue for you? You will just need to try it to see. You may not even notice it once you get a few nights of use with it.
Back when I was using the Swift FX my husband would still have to check for air flow with his hand over the mask or else he couldn't hear anything that pointed to my using the machine. He finally learned that lesson after poking me in the ribs multiple times (and waking me up) to tell me to put the mask on....and it was on.
So yes...the Swift FX is noisier than the P10 but it still isn't all that loud when compared to other nasal pillow masks...it's just that anything compared to the P10 is going to come up short when comparing noise due to the diffused venting of the P10.

if you are looking for the quietest ... take a look at the Pilairo Q ... it has a filter and cover over the exhaust port and is very quiet and defused

I found that I didn't like the Swift FX due to the loud venting and air blowing on me. The P10 is much quieter. However, the headgear of the Swift is much better than the P10 headgear in my opinion. Between the two I would always choose the P10 because I'm very disturbed by loud venting.

I really didn't like the Bella Loops. I really wanted to like them since I have long hair, but I found that they did not feel secure and I had to tighten them to the point of discomfort (behind my ears) in order to keep them securely in my nose.

Thanks everyone for the replies! I don't need the quietest mask, I just don't want anything really loud. Maybe I did myself a disservice by starting with the Airfit p10 because anything I get won't be that quiet.

While I do like the very minimalist way the Airfit p10 mask touches my face, I've never been a fan of the actual headgear. I've always had to put the bottom strap under my hair, so it couldn't slide. Otherwise, the straps would slide around too much on top of my hair. I thought the bella loops would be a good idea. I know some people said they hurt their ears, while I've seen other reviews where they said they worked great. I wish the Airfit P10 had something like that that I could try. Guess I'll just replace my headgear and stick with my Airfit P10 for now. Thanks everyone!

You know I was able to hybrid the Swift FX headgear to the P10 mask frame...hadn't thought about trying it with the Bella Loops. I don't have time right now to dig out my Bella Loops to see if I could get it to work or not.
I have a terrible memory when it comes to ideas for experiments like this....send me a PM and just tell me..."reminding you to try to marry the P10 and the Bella Loops" and that will be in front of me to remind me.

The Bella Loops I got to work well with the Nano nasal cushion which I didn't think would work but did.
Maybe I can fix up something with the Loops and the P10....just need some time to think about how to do it.

I just started my therapy a couple of weeks ago, so I'm by no means a pro at this, but I thought I'd add my two cents. When I started, I ordered three masks to try out: the Swift FX Nasal Pillows, the Swift FX Nano and the AirFit P10. I guess I'm the odd one out, but the P10 was the loudest to me when not touching anything. If I directed the Swift FX or P10 towards a pillow or the sheets, the P10 was definitely quieter, but when directed off the pillow into the air, I found the Swift FX to be much quieter (I also preferred the headgear on the Swift FX).

Ultimately, I chose the nano because I couldn't get used to the feel of those nasal pillows (maybe someday). But I love the nano. No issues with the seal. Has never woken me up at night. Very comfortable.

Pugsy wrote:You know I was able to hybrid the Swift FX headgear to the P10 mask frame...hadn't thought about trying it with the Bella Loops. I don't have time right now to dig out my Bella Loops to see if I could get it to work or not.
I have a terrible memory when it comes to ideas for experiments like this....send me a PM and just tell me..."reminding you to try to marry the P10 and the Bella Loops" and that will be in front of me to remind me.

The Bella Loops I got to work well with the Nano nasal cushion which I didn't think would work but did.
Maybe I can fix up something with the Loops and the P10....just need some time to think about how to do it.

You Hot dog! NICE idea. Having trouble getting used to the split spreading P10 head strap game every night. Got any pictures you can post so we can copy cat your modification?

I agree. Great idea. Combining the P10 pillows with the comfortable, adjustable headgear of the Swift FX would create the perfect nasal pillow mask.

Ladyflower wrote:I've been using the Airfit p10 nasal pillow mask for the last year and it's been great. Howver, the headgear is finally starting to wear out and it needs to be replaced. I've thought about just replacing the headgear, but while looking online I kinda want to try the Swift Fx nasal mask with the Bella loops. I know reviews are always going to be mixed depending on your preferences. However, one thing I've read is that the Swift Fx is much louder than the Airfit p10. Anyone have experience with this?

I have both, switched from the Fx to the P10 about 6 months ago. Overall, I prefer the P10, but I wish it had more substantial headgear. I do love its minimalism, in spite of that. I just replaced the original headgear, which is not really a problem, it's cheap, but I believe I have more frequent and larger leaks with the P10, as it doesn't keep the mask in place as well as the Fx. However, I found that while the noise of the Fx did not bother me, the stream of air often hitting my arm did, which is not a factor in the P10, with its more diffuse exhaust ports. It's a tough one, as they each have pros and cons.

Pugsy wrote:You know I was able to hybrid the Swift FX headgear to the P10 mask frame...hadn't thought about trying it with the Bella Loops. I don't have time right now to dig out my Bella Loops to see if I could get it to work or not.
I have a terrible memory when it comes to ideas for experiments like this....send me a PM and just tell me..."reminding you to try to marry the P10 and the Bella Loops" and that will be in front of me to remind me.

The Bella Loops I got to work well with the Nano nasal cushion which I didn't think would work but did.
Maybe I can fix up something with the Loops and the P10....just need some time to think about how to do it.

Pugsy, if you could post a description of how you fixed FX headgear to a P10 mask, maybe with photos, that would be terrific!

P 10 is quieter but also more comfortable. I like the Bella loops but they leave marks on my face and sometimes irritate my ears. I use them still since I don't mind the lines on days I know I am staying home in the morning.

Pugsy wrote:You know I was able to hybrid the Swift FX headgear to the P10 mask frame...hadn't thought about trying it with the Bella Loops.

Pugsy, have you any instructions on how to make the FX headgear work with the P10 mask frame? That's an experiment that I've actually been wanting to try for some time.

I have pictures (I think) of the P10 frame being stuck to the Swift FX traditional headgear...somewhere and I think I posted them here along with my ideas. It was an easy fix. Give me a little bit to see if I can find that hybrid.
I still haven't had a chance to try to marry the Bella Loops to the P10 frame...it's going to take more work but I have an idea churning right now.

Let me find the first hybrid right now and then I will work on the Bella Loop hybrid.