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Specific question about Split Test

Post by Enchanter » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:52 pm

So they give you a CPAP machine if you have symptoms of sleep apnea. But I didn't sleep enough and so the tech guy said that the clinic would call me in a few days to have another study. But he said the doctor will have my results in 7 to 10 days. So the doctor knows if I have sleep apnea? And if so, then why would I be taking another test when the doctor needs to confirm it first? It's like Im working with 2 different people and am confused who to call.
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Julie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:13 pm

They don't give you machines because of symptoms (tho' take them into acct), but according to results of testing. The doctor will get the results of the test whether or not it was judged to be complete or relevant - there will still be results, negative or otherwise. What the doctor will know (and tell you) at that time remains to be seen as you've been told.. even if it drives you crazy to wait unfortunately. You don't have to call anyone - they will call you, but if you choose to call anyhow, call the doctor - the techs are through with you as your night in their lab is done (but if you have another one, then they will be on call again - for that one night - they are lab employees, and report to their bosses, not you). Everything goes back to the doctor - every test you ever take anywhere... and he and he (or she) alone passes on the results, interprets them in light of his/her knowledge of you otherwise, and suggests treatment if it's needed. Period.
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Enchanter » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:16 pm

Julie wrote:They don't give you machines because of symptoms (tho' take them into acct), but according to results of testing. The doctor will get the results of the test whether or not it was judged to be complete or relevant - there will still be results, negative or otherwise. What the doctor will know at that time remains to be seen as you've been told.. even if it drives you crazy to wait unfortunately. You don't have to call anyone - they will call you, but if you choose to call anyhow, call the doctor - the techs are through with you as your night in their lab is done (but if you have another one, then they will be on call again - for that night). Everything goes back to the doctor - every test you ever take anywhere... and he and he (or she) alone passes on the results, interprets them in light of his/her knowledge of you otherwise, and suggests treatment if it's needed. Period.
Well why would the clinic call me possibly in a few days if the doctor hasn't gave the results out? Why waste a study on me until the doctor confirms if I need it? That's what I don't understand. And so I don't need to sleep 2 hours for the doctor to fairly judge OSA?
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Julie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:19 pm

I said the doctor will call you, NOT the clinic. The doctor doesn't have to tell techs a second night is needed (if it is) because the techs will of course have the results of the first test - before having passed them onto the doctor, but must wait for the doctor's go-ahead to set it up, they just don't do so with you on their own without his say so. And yes you do need at least 2 hrs of sleep... but that has already been explained to you a hundred times too - the fact you don't believe you slept, but apparently did. But even if you didn't, and even if you don't have SA (or do), the DOCTOR will give you all the info you need. Not the techs, not your dog, not Santa, the doctor. When he has results and you talk to him.
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Enchanter » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:27 pm

Julie wrote:I said the doctor will call you, NOT the clinic. The doctor doesn't have to tell techs a second night is needed (if it is) because the techs will of course have the results of the first test - before having passed them onto the doctor, but must wait for the doctor's go-ahead to set it up, they just don't do so with you on their own without his say so. And yes you do need at least 2 hrs of sleep... but that has already been explained to you a hundred times too - the fact you don't believe you slept, but apparently did. But even if you didn't, and even if you don't have SA (or do), the DOCTOR will give you all the info you need. Not the techs, not your dog, not Santa, the doctor. When he has results and you talk to him.

Julie, I didn't get 2 hours of sleep. The tech explained that I didn't get close to 2 hours. He said I slept very little and it was a bad test. He said I napped very little but hardly at all and a test would need to be redone. He said that his crew would call me very soon for another appointment. So if he said that himself, how can the doctor determine proper results?
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:29 pm

Julie wrote:I said the doctor will call you, NOT the clinic. .... Not the techs, not your dog, not Santa, the doctor. When he has results and you talk to him.
if I interpreted all the initial flood, the implication was that the clinic would call him to schedule another try, since at least part of the first one was inconclusive. whether it was the test, or titration after the mask went on, there's (turning back to enchanter) NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW. but I bet you a dollar that they'll tell you... not as fast as you want them to, but they will. 'specially if you start calling the doctor and the clinic tomorrow and going at them like you've been going at us.

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Julie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:29 pm

Results to the MD will say how long (or not) you slept. Then the MD will tell you another test is needed and when. Results are the report from the lab to the doctor, whether or not there's positive data to impart, a report is still generated saying what transpired at the lab.


I find it hard to believe that at your age you've never had lab tests done... because no one but the doctor would have ever given you results... or have you been living in a cave all this time and never seen a doctor?

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Enchanter » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:31 pm

Julie wrote:Results to the MD will say how long (or not) you slept. Then the MD will tell you another test is needed and when. Results are the report from the lab to the doctor, whether or not there's positive data to impart, a report is still generated saying what transpired at the lab.


I find it hard to believe that at your age you've never had lab tests done... because no one but the doctor would have ever given you results... or have you been living in a cave all this time and never seen a doctor?

I just never did a sleep study before. I do remember other tests where the doctor got the results. But if I need another test, I guess I have to see him twice now?
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Julie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:35 pm

Oh for gd's sake!

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Enchanter » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:35 pm

Julie wrote:Oh for gd's sake!

Sorry. I'm just really nervous about all this right now.
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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Julie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:37 pm

Yes, but we're all patients too, and some of us are nervous, not feeling well, had a bad day, week, year, but have been put in the position of holding your hand for days now instead of dealing with other people here. The universe does not revolve around you alone. If you're nervous do some exercise, have a drink, yell at the moon, but get a grip!

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:49 pm

Enchanter wrote:
Julie wrote:Oh for gd's sake!

Sorry. I'm just really nervous about all this right now.
you need to go do something else besides obsess here, before you piss everybody off to the point that everybody ignores you.

try getting some sleep.

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:33 pm

Sleep is weird. Many of us will not be aware of how long we slept, even with a clock in the room.
It happens all the time. You are not alone.

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by yaconsult » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:46 pm

Enchanter wrote:
Julie wrote:I said the doctor will call you, NOT the clinic. The doctor doesn't have to tell techs a second night is needed (if it is) because the techs will of course have the results of the first test - before having passed them onto the doctor, but must wait for the doctor's go-ahead to set it up, they just don't do so with you on their own without his say so. And yes you do need at least 2 hrs of sleep... but that has already been explained to you a hundred times too - the fact you don't believe you slept, but apparently did. But even if you didn't, and even if you don't have SA (or do), the DOCTOR will give you all the info you need. Not the techs, not your dog, not Santa, the doctor. When he has results and you talk to him.

Julie, I didn't get 2 hours of sleep. The tech explained that I didn't get close to 2 hours. He said I slept very little and it was a bad test. He said I napped very little but hardly at all and a test would need to be redone. He said that his crew would call me very soon for another appointment. So if he said that himself, how can the doctor determine proper results?
Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING that anyone at the sleep lab said matters in the slightest. The ONLY thing that matters is the big report that will show up on your doctor's computer that will have a breath-by-breath, minute-by-minute, brainwave-by-brainwave recording of the entire night you spent at the sleep lab since you were wired up. He is an expert in sleep and respiratory medicine and will assess those results using his knowledge, training, and experience. He will then meet with you and present you with his findings and recommendations. That is the way it works, and there are excellent reasons why. We have all gone through this exact same process and we are speaking from experience, not speculation.

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Re: Specific question about Split Test

Post by Tatooed Lady » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:14 pm

Enchanter wrote:So they give you a CPAP machine if you have symptoms of sleep apnea. But I didn't sleep enough and so the tech guy said that the clinic would call me in a few days to have another study. But he said the doctor will have my results in 7 to 10 days. So the doctor knows if I have sleep apnea? And if so, then why would I be taking another test when the doctor needs to confirm it first? It's like Im working with 2 different people and am confused who to call.
You waited TEN YEARS before addressing this health issue. Either call the doctor and harass HIM, or friggin' relax. Do research. Look at old threads on the forum. Meditate. Take a walk. Watch Gilligan's Island. Look at the ten million posts from actual, honest to God HOSPITALS on information for what to expect. But DO NOT EXPECT THAT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM HAS A MAGIC FREAKING 8 BALL. We just don't. If we did, or could wave a happy, magical wand, OSA would be just something in the rear view mirror. And I would have a never ending roll of duct tape and a magic hammer.

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