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Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:55 am

So i had a follow up with my doctor. He told me that I have some apnea. But he did not specify how many. And he said that since the air saturation meter had failed he couldn't ascertain sleep apnea. He recommended redoing the sleep study. Im not sure how he wants me to manage to sleep 4 hours with that uncomfortable equipment. He refused to give me sleeping pills since that would increase the apneas and skew the study.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by Julie » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:33 am

Hi - Please post to your other thread(s) so we can follow your story - this makes it hard to do that.

You need a new doctor - a lot of us were given one (only) Ambien to take before the study - it doesn't skew results - tell him that - and it seems very necessary for your anxiety, which is far more likely to affect things. Also, you are entitled by law to your results, not just the one pg summary, but the whole thing... I'd make a point of getting that from your MDs office (sleep lab can't do it) after your study and let us know the highlights. And FYI - the 'air sat' meter is an oximeter.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 11:48 am

Julie wrote:Hi - Please post to your other thread(s) so we can follow your story - this makes it hard to do that.

You need a new doctor - a lot of us were given one (only) Ambien to take before the study - it doesn't skew results - tell him that - and it seems very necessary for your anxiety, which is far more likely to affect things. Also, you are entitled by law to your results, not just the one pg summary, but the whole thing... I'd make a point of getting that from your MDs office (sleep lab can't do it) after your study and let us know the highlights. And FYI - the 'air sat' meter is an oximeter.
Kinda don't want all the drama to follow me around. So I'll stick to this thread. This thread will be on a clean slate.

Anyway. I redid the test a week ago. I should meet the doctor and have the results this coming week hopefully. I've counted about 3 months and 7 days with sleep apnea. I'm hoping that it's a milder form so that the chances of my cognitive abilities returning increase. I'll be updating this thread as soon as I get my results from the oximetry test. My absolute main concern is that my cognitive abilities return to normal so that I can go back to studying. Everything else is secondary. If i'm lucky enough that it's a mild form and the fact that i've made effort to get it diagnosed early. I'll achieve my goal.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by LSAT » Sat May 02, 2015 2:01 pm

The treatment is the same for mild, moderate or severe sleep apnea........CPAP

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 3:31 pm

LSAT wrote:The treatment is the same for mild, moderate or severe sleep apnea........CPAP
I'm fine with that. But mild apnea probably gives you less risk of significant brain damage. And has a higher chance of disappearing if you lose weight.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by palerider » Sat May 02, 2015 3:45 pm

tiredandscared wrote:And has a higher chance of disappearing if you lose weight.
I've never seen anything showing a correlation between weight and severity of apnea. perhaps weight and pressure needed to correct it, but, then, we've also heard from numerous people who've lost weight and their pressures either stayed the same, or *increased* with their weight loss.... so.. *shrug* I dunno.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 3:48 pm

palerider wrote:
tiredandscared wrote:And has a higher chance of disappearing if you lose weight.
I've never seen anything showing a correlation between weight and severity of apnea. perhaps weight and pressure needed to correct it, but, then, we've also heard from numerous people who've lost weight and their pressures either stayed the same, or *increased* with their weight loss.... so.. *shrug* I dunno.
I read in two OSA-weight loss studies, that fatty-tissue related sleep apnea(basically as a result of fat overwhelming throat muscles) could be relieved with weight loss. And it mostly occurs in people with mild-moderate cases. OSA has multiple etiologies. I know that I and my father got sleep apnea as a result of obesity. And I know that my father had a decrease in apneas when he lost weight. Now i'm not as bad as my father apnea wise. I'm hoping I can get through this with minimal loss(cognitively)

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Re: Sleep results

Post by Julie » Sat May 02, 2015 4:07 pm

It's now believed that apnea causes weight gain, and Cpap decreases it... not the other way around.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat May 02, 2015 4:14 pm

tiredandscared wrote:
palerider wrote:
tiredandscared wrote:And has a higher chance of disappearing if you lose weight.
I've never seen anything showing a correlation between weight and severity of apnea. perhaps weight and pressure needed to correct it, but, then, we've also heard from numerous people who've lost weight and their pressures either stayed the same, or *increased* with their weight loss.... so.. *shrug* I dunno.
I read in two OSA-weight loss studies, that fatty-tissue related sleep apnea(basically as a result of fat overwhelming throat muscles) could be relieved with weight loss. And it mostly occurs in people with mild-moderate cases. OSA has multiple etiologies. I know that I and my father got sleep apnea as a result of obesity. And I know that my father had a decrease in apneas when he lost weight. Now i'm not as bad as my father apnea wise. I'm hoping I can get through this with minimal loss(cognitively)

Don't hold your breathe on that.
Many weight gain problems are CAUSED by sleep apnea that is caused by structural issues. You have a 50/50 chance of having a weight loss decrease your apnea.
Mild or severe doesn't matter with regard to treatment. It has no effect on pressure either. I was extreme severe but only needed a pressure of 7-9 to recover completely within 3 months.

Besides which AHI is only one issue - the length off those apneas and the clustering of them and the O2 levels are just as important.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 5:06 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
tiredandscared wrote:
palerider wrote:
tiredandscared wrote:And has a higher chance of disappearing if you lose weight.
I've never seen anything showing a correlation between weight and severity of apnea. perhaps weight and pressure needed to correct it, but, then, we've also heard from numerous people who've lost weight and their pressures either stayed the same, or *increased* with their weight loss.... so.. *shrug* I dunno.
I read in two OSA-weight loss studies, that fatty-tissue related sleep apnea(basically as a result of fat overwhelming throat muscles) could be relieved with weight loss. And it mostly occurs in people with mild-moderate cases. OSA has multiple etiologies. I know that I and my father got sleep apnea as a result of obesity. And I know that my father had a decrease in apneas when he lost weight. Now i'm not as bad as my father apnea wise. I'm hoping I can get through this with minimal loss(cognitively)

Don't hold your breathe on that.
Many weight gain problems are CAUSED by sleep apnea that is caused by structural issues. You have a 50/50 chance of having a weight loss decrease your apnea.
Mild or severe doesn't matter with regard to treatment. It has no effect on pressure either. I was extreme severe but only needed a pressure of 7-9 to recover completely within 3 months.

Besides which AHI is only one issue - the length off those apneas and the clustering of them and the O2 levels are just as important.
I had some apnea, but he didn't tell me how many. Because the oximeter hadn't worked. According to those who've looked at me sleep, they haven't noticed any apneas. I'm hoping atleast i'll have a mild case without any big oxygen desats.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by Krelvin » Sat May 02, 2015 5:13 pm

tiredandscared wrote:I had some apnea, but he didn't tell me how many. Because the oximeter hadn't worked. According to those who've looked at me sleep, they haven't noticed any apneas. I'm hoping atleast i'll have a mild case without any big oxygen desats.
Why don't you have the sleep study report? You are legally entitled to it.
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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 5:16 pm

Krelvin wrote:
tiredandscared wrote:I had some apnea, but he didn't tell me how many. Because the oximeter hadn't worked. According to those who've looked at me sleep, they haven't noticed any apneas. I'm hoping atleast i'll have a mild case without any big oxygen desats.
Why don't you have the sleep study report? You are legally entitled to it.
it's incomplete, so it's kinda meaningless. But when I get to the doctor this week(hopefully), i'll ask for it. After all it was private.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat May 02, 2015 5:16 pm

Think chicken vs egg. Order does not matter as much as existence.
Cpap helped me lose weight that would never come off otherwise.
Both cpap and weight loss can be good for you. Go for both!

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Sat May 02, 2015 5:22 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Think chicken vs egg. Order does not matter as much as existence.
Cpap helped me lose weight that would never come off otherwise.
Both cpap and weight loss can be good for you. Go for both!
More important than anything else is maintaining brainpower. Which is why I tried to get it diagnosed as quickly as possible. I've lost weight before. And it was easy. Wish me luck.

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Re: Sleep results

Post by tiredandscared » Mon May 04, 2015 11:31 pm

I realize now that i have a perfect storm of interrelated problems. Asthma and lpr and Sleep apnea. I managed to sleep 5 hours. But woke up still tired and foggy. I think i might be more screwed than i think. But atleast now im taking the entire thing fully seriously. Ive stacked clothes behind my back and started taking my reflux medication(which i stopped because it was givibg me iron deficiency , but now i have supplemental iron and will use it more strategically ). I'll be getting and oximeter in 2 days. If anyone has any advice on how to keep your arms from moving during sleep or not letting the body go supine. Please share. I realized i should have done this month's ago. Im just hoping im not getting severe oxygen desaturations.