APAP buying decisions, Resmed or DeVilbiss, (maybe Respironi

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APAP buying decisions, Resmed or DeVilbiss, (maybe Respironi

Post by GreenIce » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:49 am

It been a while back since I bought my Respironic M Series APAP in 2007. Have been having good results with low AHI and good feeling. Still using swift II mask, other masks fail me. Tired of trying masks. Many thanks to Rested girl and others for giving advices in the past. Rude Awakening : currently the APAP is going bonkers with display of require service and beeping non stop. This is happening about two weeks now. Need to plug and unplug the power socket many times to get it working. Last night at 2am, after trying a few hours, I finally get the APAP working. Now I just leave the APAP power on, I have a habit of turning off APAP in the morning.

Faulty APAP : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMuZz4vlPU

Sooner or later the APAP is going to fail, I am considering to buy new APAP. Here is a few things I am looking for,
i) Software by manufacturer. Compatible with SleepyHead is a plus.
ii) Humidifier, only for traveling. Most of the time probably don't need it.
iii) Like to try something new, Respironic will be my last choice.

Since I am staying outside of US and insurance does not pay for equipments. It is going to be an expensive purchase, exchange rate with USD is all time high. A few models that interest me, DeVilbiss Intellipap, Resmed S9 and maybe Respironic 60 series. I hope some experience users share their experience and knowledge. Some questions,

1) DeVilbiss Intellipap APAP, I watch the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mOGLqsI44 ) by cpaphelpdesk, he mention Intellipap is the loudest among Resmed, Respironic, F & P.
I wonder how bad is the noise ? Any drawbacks or good points of this APAP ?
Anyone use their SmartLink software ?

2) I understand Resmed AirSense 10 is the latest Resmed APAP. Resmed S9 is still listed in cpap.com for sale. Is S9 going to be obsolete soon ? Is it still worth buying S9 ?
Resmed software seems not to be available for sale. Only option is to use SleepyHead ?

As usual Resmed APAP is the most expensive among other APAP. I am not sure is it worth to spend so much for APAP.

3) Respironic 60 series, any comment ?

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Post by Drowsy Dancer » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:22 pm

I'm not really the purchase expert here but I'll offer a few thoughts.

You're using an M-series from 2007. The S9 AutoSet is not going to be obsolete anytime soon, and it will be an enormous leap from what you are used to. So will the other machines you've IDed.

I wouldn't attach any importance to manufacturer-available software. SleepyHead is actually better IMO. Note: I only have practical experience with the Respironics available software, because I don't have any ResMed machines.

I have a 560P with the heated hose and I like it. I have also used the 550P and liked it.

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Post by Julie » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:36 pm

I'm never aware of noise with my machine (and it's cheaper than the others). I don't use the module/software because my OSA is very consistent and uncomplicated, so I get all the info I need by taking the code # from the screen in the a.m. (I only bother maybe weekly, monthly, when I think of it), enter it in a little box on either DeV's site or Cpap.com and have not felt the need of more. I could use SleepyHead software (works with Macs too) but while I DL'd it, have never used it. Have had my machine going on 4-5 yrs and it's going strong... never had any problems.

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Post by bwexler » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:48 pm

I have used Resmed S9 Autoset and PRS1 960. The Resmed was much quieter but the 960 is more complex and often at higher pressure. It is possible to get both Resmed and PRS1 software, but I also prefer Sleepyhead.
Haven't used and would never consider the other brands. I might be a snob.

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Post by Pugsy » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:50 pm

Check your private message box.....I sent you some information on the brand name software for the equipment you are considering.

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Re: APAP buying decisions, Resmed or DeVilbiss, (maybe Respironi

Post by GreenIce » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:16 pm

Drowsy Dancer wrote:I'm not really the purchase expert here but I'll offer a few thoughts.

You're using an M-series from 2007. The S9 AutoSet is not going to be obsolete anytime soon, and it will be an enormous leap from what you are used to. So will the other machines you've IDed.

I wouldn't attach any importance to manufacturer-available software. SleepyHead is actually better IMO. Note: I only have practical experience with the Respironics available software, because I don't have any ResMed machines.

I have a 560P with the heated hose and I like it. I have also used the 550P and liked it.
From what I read, it is advancement in terms of APAP technology after a few years. I probably don't need heated hose, since I m staying in Malaysia, a tropical country.

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Post by palerider » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:21 pm

GreenIce wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:I'm not really the purchase expert here but I'll offer a few thoughts.

You're using an M-series from 2007. The S9 AutoSet is not going to be obsolete anytime soon, and it will be an enormous leap from what you are used to. So will the other machines you've IDed.

I wouldn't attach any importance to manufacturer-available software. SleepyHead is actually better IMO. Note: I only have practical experience with the Respironics available software, because I don't have any ResMed machines.

I have a 560P with the heated hose and I like it. I have also used the 550P and liked it.
From what I read, it is advancement in terms of APAP technology after a few years.
there's a huge difference in the m series and the s9 autoset, there are only minor differences in the function of the s9 vs the airsense 10 autoset, though the physical difference is striking.

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Re: APAP buying decisions, Resmed or DeVilbiss, (maybe Respironi

Post by GreenIce » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:30 pm

Julie wrote:I'm never aware of noise with my machine (and it's cheaper than the others). I don't use the module/software because my OSA is very consistent and uncomplicated, so I get all the info I need by taking the code # from the screen in the a.m. (I only bother maybe weekly, monthly, when I think of it), enter it in a little box on either DeV's site or Cpap.com and have not felt the need of more. I could use SleepyHead software (works with Macs too) but while I DL'd it, have never used it. Have had my machine going on 4-5 yrs and it's going strong... never had any problems.
That's what Intellipap attracts me, reasonable price. The price of Intellipap APAP, humidifier and smartlink software is still cheaper compare to Respironic 60 Series APAP alone. I do notice price of Respironic and Resmed have increase significantly compare to the last time I bought APAP.

I have access to both PC or Mac, I think it will be no issue with software.

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Post by archangle » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:39 pm

Data collection is better on PRS1 or ResMed vs. the DeVilbiss. In particular, (I think) the DeVilbiss machines don't record the flow rate waveforms, where you can see graphs of your actual breathing. I think some of the other detailed information is better on the PRS1 or ResMed.

The members on this web site also have a lot more experience on PRS1 and ResMed.

Check the useful links in my signature line at the bottom of this post for some further information on which model to get.

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Re: APAP buying decisions, Resmed or DeVilbiss, (maybe Respironi

Post by GreenIce » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:19 pm

archangle wrote:Data collection is better on PRS1 or ResMed vs. the DeVilbiss. In particular, (I think) the DeVilbiss machines don't record the flow rate waveforms, where you can see graphs of your actual breathing. I think some of the other detailed information is better on the PRS1 or ResMed.

The members on this web site also have a lot more experience on PRS1 and ResMed.

Check the useful links in my signature line at the bottom of this post for some further information on which model to get.
OK, some one also comment the cons of DeVilbiss, software limitation. Looks like Resmed or Respironic is the top choice.

If I am going to purchase Resmed, AirSense 10 or S9, is it wise to buy S9, as it is an older model ?

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Post by Drowsy Dancer » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:17 pm

GreenIce wrote:
archangle wrote:Data collection is better on PRS1 or ResMed vs. the DeVilbiss. In particular, (I think) the DeVilbiss machines don't record the flow rate waveforms, where you can see graphs of your actual breathing. I think some of the other detailed information is better on the PRS1 or ResMed.

The members on this web site also have a lot more experience on PRS1 and ResMed.

Check the useful links in my signature line at the bottom of this post for some further information on which model to get.
OK, some one also comment the cons of DeVilbiss, software limitation. Looks like Resmed or Respironic is the top choice.

If I am going to purchase Resmed, AirSense 10 or S9, is it wise to buy S9, as it is an older model ?
The S9 is still pretty advanced. The price on that product line should start coming down because it's not the absolute latest and greatest. You're making a quantum leap from an M-series to an S9. The difference between an S9 and an Airsense 10 would by contrast be more of a modest step forward.

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Post by Guest1 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:04 pm

I was also torn b/w Respironics and Devilbiss. I chose respironics because:
1) Devilbiss doesn't record waveform data.
2) Once you take into account the complete cost of Devilbiss which is machine, humidifier tank, heated hose, cable to download stuff, it is fairly close to a PRS1 60 series. I paid $624 cash for PRS1 60 series. Devilbiss with all this was coming to $614 that day.

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Post by GreenIce » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:47 pm

I have place an order for Resmed S9.

Thanks everyone for the replies.

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