ResScan vs Sleepyhead

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Sclark08
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ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Sclark08 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:15 pm

Went to my DME today due to numbers being out of control due to leaks and Ca's. They ran my SD card from last night.
My results showed AHI of 7.65. They said ResScan showed 1.65. She made a couple of suggestions as far as my mask and pretty much that was it. When I questioned her about Sleepyhead she said she didnt know anything about it.
Isnt sleepyhead reliable or do DME's defend ResScan because that is all they sell?

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Krelvin » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:39 pm

Sclark08 wrote:DME's defend ResScan because that is all they sell?
Yes. Sleepyhead is free.

Beyond that, most never look at the details, just the over all compliance info.
My results showed AHI of 7.65. They said ResScan showed 1.65
Did they provide you with a report showing this? Or did they just tell you, perhaps not even looking at the same data set?

Not enough information was provided to determine why you are seeing such a different (or they did).
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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:40 pm

SleepyHead is not an "approved medical device" most Doctors and DME's are not familiar with it, but it works just as well, most would say better, than ResScan. The numbers in ResScan and SleepyHead might differ slightly due to a differences in rounding, but it is an insignificant difference, 10ths or 100ths. A difference of 7.65 to 1.65 is not likely. Somebody read something wrong or compared different periods, or some such.

If you would like to compare the two you may go to this site and follow the instructions to get a copy of ResScan. You will have to register.
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... -available

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by LSAT » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:41 pm

When I do compare SH to ReScan my numbers are extremely close.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Sclark08 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:55 pm

Thanks. Unfortunately I have. Mac computer and I dont beleive there is a resscan program for Mac.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Sclark08 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:57 pm

They did do a print out and their ahi was 1.65 Sleepyhead was 7.65

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by SGearhart » Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:03 pm

I obtained ResScan because that 's what my doctor uses in house. After comparing ResScan to Sleepyhead I went with Sleepyhead. I feel Sleepyhead provides more detail and better graphics than ResScan. My doctor was also impressed with Sleepyhead and allows me to furnish him with weekly reports generated by it.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:20 pm

Again, it's not likely there was that much of a difference in AHI for the same period. Is it possible you had multiple sessions and your looking at the AHI for only one of those sessions in SleepyHead (Select session at the bottom Daily Detail Panel)? One of multiple sessions could have a higher AHI than the whole night. Can you post the readout they gave you along with your SleepyHead results? Odd they said 7.65 and SH said 1.65, was there confusion between a 7 and a 1?

AHI is made up of the Apnea Index plus the Hypopnea Index. The Apnea Index is further broken down into Obstructive, Central, and Unkown. Is it possible the 1.65 was only one of those, the like the Apnea Index for example, and not the AHI which would include the sum of the 4?

My last AHI was reported by ResScan to be 1.3, SleepyHead was 1.31. Notice my ResScan only reports to the nearest 10th, not to the 100th.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:12 pm

Sclark08 wrote:When I questioned her about Sleepyhead she said she didnt know anything about it.
Isnt sleepyhead reliable or do DME's defend ResScan because that is all they sell?
When I showed Sleepyhead to my sleep doctor a few years ago he could barely contain his boredom. After my laptop dog-and-pony show was over he asked how I could be sure the results were accurate. I did my best to explain but when he barely managed to suppress a yawn, I then realized there was nothing I could say that would sway him from his beloved medical establishment approved ResScan. Nice and easy... No curiosity, no interest, no thinking involved. This was years ago, tho I doubt he has changed.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Sclark08 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:38 pm

I understand Sir Noddinoff
My sleep Dr and DME,s are exactly the same way.

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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by RogerSC » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:42 pm

When I go to my sleep doctor, he's looking at a period of at least a couple of months. He never focuses on a particular day or week, unless I have a particular question. I'm betting, with the rest of the posters, that your sleep doctor was looking at a different period of time than you were. I've used both ResScan and Sleepyhead as well, and they've always been very close.

You've not really addressed that question directly, what period of time were you looking at with Sleepyhead, and what period of time was the doctor looking at with ResScan? Both the number of days included, and the start and stop dates used are significant to resolving this...although I don't really think that there's anything to resolve here *smile*.


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Re: ResScan vs Sleepyhead

Post by Krelvin » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:19 pm

Sclark08 wrote:They did do a print out and their ahi was 1.65 Sleepyhead was 7.65
Unless you have a copy of both of the reports in hand, you have nothing to compare. How you expect an answer in that case??? A guess, they didn't cover the same total amount of time. But that is just that... a guess.
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