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Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:29 pm
by dneves808
Phillips respironics , med full face mask set at 11

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:51 pm
by Julie
A fair number of people have gotten rid of aerophagia (or lessened it) by lowering their low pressure setting by 1 or 2 cm... maybe try that for a few days and see if it helps, especially if you see that your AHI hasn't gone up by any appreciable amount and you still feel rested.

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:56 am
by ChicagoGranny
I'd happily quit the opiates to avoid the GI issues, do you think I should do the colonoscopy and upper GI endoscopy, I'm worried about the safety of those procedures.
Did the bloating only start when you started using CPAP? If you did not have bloating before you used CPAP, then IMO it would be wasteful and unnecessary risk to have the procedures. Plenty of people get bloating caused by CPAP and a colonoscopy or upper GI endoscopy will achieve nothing for them.

Two things I would work on:

1. Tapering the drugs down to zero.
2. Figuring out how to read the data on your machine to see if the CPAP therapy is effective.
3. Making sure your diet encourages regular bowel movements.

BTW, opiates relax the airway muscles and make sleep apnea worse.

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:26 pm
by dneves808
ChicagoGranny wrote:
I'd happily quit the opiates to avoid the GI issues, do you think I should do the colonoscopy and upper GI endoscopy, I'm worried about the safety of those procedures.
Did the bloating only start when you started using CPAP? If you did not have bloating before you used CPAP, then IMO it would be wasteful and unnecessary risk to have the procedures. Plenty of people get bloating caused by CPAP and a colonoscopy or upper GI endoscopy will achieve nothing for them.

Two things I would work on:

1. Tapering the drugs down to zero.
2. Figuring out how to read the data on your machine to see if the CPAP therapy is effective.
3. Making sure your diet encourages regular bowel movements.

BTW, opiates relax the airway muscles and make sleep apnea worse.
thank you very much for the advice I will take all these into account, the stopping breathing at night due to severe gas does worry me and I may do these procedures just to rule out the other things, my wife really thinks I should do the procedures and being this much bloated and all messed up kinda makes me think favorably of the procedures as well just in case there is something good thing this either way I'm nervous as hell and I've always had an anxiety disorder and I think I may have just created IBS through my own anxiety

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:28 pm
by Julie
Do NOT sign on for surgery because of aerophagia. It's common to many of us when starting out and I've never heard of anyone wanting to be operated on because of it (however lousy it may be to live with short term). Your wife, wonderful as she may be, is not a doctor or sleep specialist, let alone someone with lots of experience here dealing with all of us who've had the problem (I haven't had it, but do relate).

Have you tried my earlier suggestion to lower your pressure a notch for a couple of days to see if it helps? It very often makes all the difference. As does raising the head of your bed on 5" blocks of some kind. Aerophagia is not an indication for surgery unless it's been diagnosed by a specialist as being related to other more serious problems. And you can't just 'give' yourself IBS, though of course anxiety and stress can impact your bathroom habits... but you need to try some relaxation exercises instead of becoming more frantic over what's essentially a side effect of air.

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:20 pm
by ChicagoGranny
dneves808 wrote:I think I may have just created IBS through my own anxiety
You did not answer my question which was,
Did the bloating only start when you started using CPAP?

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:34 pm
by dneves808
Julie wrote:Do NOT sign on for surgery because of aerophagia. It's common to many of us when starting out and I've never heard of anyone wanting to be operated on because of it (however lousy it may be to live with short term). Your wife, wonderful as she may be, is not a doctor or sleep specialist, let alone someone with lots of experience here dealing with all of us who've had the problem (I haven't had it, but do relate).

Have you tried my earlier suggestion to lower your pressure a notch for a couple of days to see if it helps? It very often makes all the difference. As does raising the head of your bed on 5" blocks of some kind. Aerophagia is not an indication for surgery unless it's been diagnosed by a specialist as being related to other more serious problems. And you can't just 'give' yourself IBS, though of course anxiety and stress can impact your bathroom habits... but you need to try some relaxation exercises instead of becoming more frantic over what's essentially a side effect of air.
been on cpap over three years, first time with this prob, I lowered pressure from 12 to 11, sometimes the gas is so severe wake up in the middle of the night after the help of the breed of pressure from the seat Anthony just in gas causes pressure on my diaphragm

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:35 pm
by dneves808
ChicagoGranny wrote:
dneves808 wrote:I think I may have just created IBS through my own anxiety
You did not answer my question which was,
Did the bloating only start when you started using CPAP?
no I don't think so, this severe bloating and constipation start about a month ago when I found out my wife was pregnant with our third child that's wht I think it may be stress induced

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:07 pm
by DeadlySleep
dneves808 wrote:no I don't think so, this severe bloating and constipation start about a month ago when I found out my wife was pregnant with our third child
Maybe you have a copycat pregnancy?

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:11 pm
by DeadlySleep
Seriously, I see what Granny was after. If this started three years after you started CPAP, then it may well be that there is some cause beside the CPAP. I would go get the tests. Tell the anesthesiologist and the doctor about your sleep apnea and your concerns about breathing. They know how to keep you breathing while you are under. I've had these tests twice and despite my severe apnea they had no problem keeping me breathing. Good luck.

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:57 pm
by dneves808
DeadlySleep wrote:Seriously, I see what Granny was after. If this started three years after you started CPAP, then it may well be that there is some cause beside the CPAP. I would go get the tests. Tell the anesthesiologist and the doctor about your sleep apnea and your concerns about breathing. They know how to keep you breathing while you are under. I've had these tests twice and despite my severe apnea they had no problem keeping me breathing. Good luck.
thank you

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:44 am
by dneves808
ChicagoGranny wrote:
dneves808 wrote:I think I may have just created IBS through my own anxiety
You did not answer my question which was,
Did the bloating only start when you started using CPAP?
tubing had a hole in it, small leak explains why I couldn't breathe

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:05 am
by ChicagoGranny
dneves808 wrote:tubing had a hole in it, small leak explains why I couldn't breathe
Tubing? Yours or the CPAP's?

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:11 pm
by chunkyfrog
I thought I was bloated, but it was my gall bladder.
Do get that checked out.

Re: Can't breath in middle of the night on cpap when bloated.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:48 pm
by dneves808
ChicagoGranny wrote:
dneves808 wrote:tubing had a hole in it, small leak explains why I couldn't breathe
Tubing? Yours or the CPAP's?
cpap