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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:56 pm

We have a thread or two here regarding the subject, but I couldn't find them.
As you are probably aware, some think this was a normal human condition before the Industrial Revolution.
Here's a reference from Wikipedia for those that are interested, Segmented Sleep.

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by borgready » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:27 am

Hey <Removed by Admin>,

Do you have this fractured sleep while using cpap?
Did you have the fractured sleep pattern before you started using cpap?
How old were you when you started to notice your odd sleep pattern?
When did you start using Cpap(age)?

With this fractured sleep pattern, do you have trouble completing your sleep for the night? So you sleep, then wake up a couple hours, then go back to sleep for a couple hours, then get back up. Do you get extremely tired as each sleep cycle kicks in? So you could be up doing something and then the next sleep cycle kicks in and you end up falling asleep while doing something. The trouble is if your sleep needs to do 5 sleep cycles instead of 2 in order to get your full nights sleep.

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by 49er » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:23 am

Alex,

My philosophy is if this sleep pattern works for you and you feel fully functional, then go with it. If ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by M'ohms » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:30 am

49er wrote:Alex,

My philosophy is if this sleep pattern works for you and you feel fully functional, then go with it. If ain't broke, don't fix it.

49er
49er--
You have no idea how your comment has just affected me. I, too have been plagued by a "sleep 2 hours, wake up" cycle. My doctor doesn't know what else to suggest and I've tried many things with no success. For the first time in years, I feel a sense of calm over this situation. I'm not going to worry about it anymore! Thanks!

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by 49er » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:57 am

M'ohms wrote:
49er wrote:Alex,

My philosophy is if this sleep pattern works for you and you feel fully functional, then go with it. If ain't broke, don't fix it.

49er
49er--
You have no idea how your comment has just affected me. I, too have been plagued by a "sleep 2 hours, wake up" cycle. My doctor doesn't know what else to suggest and I've tried many things with no success. For the first time in years, I feel a sense of calm over this situation. I'm not going to worry about it anymore! Thanks!
Hi M'ohms,

I am so glad I helped. I just feel life is stressful enough without trying to fix something that isn't necessary to repair if it is working for you just to fit what society deems as "normal".

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by M'ohms » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:04 am

49er wrote:
M'ohms wrote:
49er wrote:Alex,

My philosophy is if this sleep pattern works for you and you feel fully functional, then go with it. If ain't broke, don't fix it.

49er
49er--
You have no idea how your comment has just affected me. I, too have been plagued by a "sleep 2 hours, wake up" cycle. My doctor doesn't know what else to suggest and I've tried many things with no success. For the first time in years, I feel a sense of calm over this situation. I'm not going to worry about it anymore! Thanks!
Hi M'ohms,

I am so glad I helped. I just feel life is stressful enough without trying to fix something that isn't necessary to repair if it is working for you just to fit what society deems as "normal".

49er
Such a simple idea, and yet so very true! Thanks again. You made my day!

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by VictorC » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:11 am

I think I was biphasic. Growing up and all through college, I would sleep four hours at night, and then nap 1-2 hours in the afternoon. This always worked well for me up until I graduated from college. After that I had to adjust my schedule to fit my work life. I still have issues with getting enough sleep, and they aren't OSA related, but with a lot of effort, I have mostly learned to sleep mostly at night.

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by zoocrewphoto » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:44 am

M'ohms wrote:
49er wrote:Alex,

My philosophy is if this sleep pattern works for you and you feel fully functional, then go with it. If ain't broke, don't fix it.

49er
49er--
You have no idea how your comment has just affected me. I, too have been plagued by a "sleep 2 hours, wake up" cycle. My doctor doesn't know what else to suggest and I've tried many things with no success. For the first time in years, I feel a sense of calm over this situation. I'm not going to worry about it anymore! Thanks!

I'm a severe night owl. I typically go to bed between 4 and 6 am. Back in college, I fought it, and suffered. I was on a list for night owls, and even the people doing various treatments were failing. It occurred to me that when my schedule adjusted for my sleep, I felt fine. When I tried to be normal, I felt sick. Rather than fight it, I learned to adjust, and it works for me. There are days like today where I had to get up at 6am, so I did managed to get to bed early and still got shorted, but I have learned ways to make it work for me.

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Re: anyone here naturally biphasic/polyphasic?

Post by TyroneShoes » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:49 am

Until this thread, my understanding was that fractured sleep was not good because it decreased total REM (REM segments get longer over ~7.5 hours of straight sleep).

But this is making me re-evaluate this. If it was common pre-industry, possibly it is actually more normal than straight sleep. Of course we lived to 45 pre-industrial, so let's hope there is no connection there.

A couple years ago (only XPAP since August) I was regularly up for 2-3 hours in the middle of the night. I would read, watch TV, say stupid stuff on internet forums (who, me?), etc., but it always felt peaceful and I always felt content. Then that sort of stopped. But the prolactin theory seems to support my mood during these nocturnal periods.

I have only done this once since XPAP, and that was on a night when I just was not able to get to sleep. So, up for 90 minutes, and back down.

It is comforting to know that this is probably not all that abnormal.

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Post by zoocrewphoto » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:00 am

I do this sometimes. I may get up for an hour or two, and then go back to bed when I feel like it. It usually starts with a bathroom trip and by the time I get back to bed, I just don't fee like going back to bed yet.

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