Nasal Mask Options

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Nasal Mask Options

Post by Mykale » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:52 am

I have reached the end of my initial 10 month period that my insurance company requires before they will allow ordering a new mask. I have been using a Mirage FX and have adapted to it fairly well. The one thing I do not care for is the way the exhaust is directed. It seems that the diffusers direct the air where it hits my arms or at times bounces off the pillow back onto my face.

Does anyone have suggestions for a light weight nasal mask that vents air more directly away and not so much to the sides?

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Pugsy » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:11 am

Sticking with the nasal cushion type of mask (over the nose) you might look at the F & P Eson. It has a special cover to diffuse the vented air
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... -mask.html

If you wanted to try a nasal pillow type of mask...the ResMed AirFit P10 has special vent holes to diffuse the air...link in my profile. I have to have my hand pretty much within an inch of the holes to feel the air.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Mykale » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:01 pm

Pugsy,

Thank you for the suggestions and link. The Eson sounds interesting and I may give it a try.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by englandsf » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:37 pm

If you get a chance, try a P10. Pillows not over the nose and very low venting

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Bignate76 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:52 am

englandsf wrote:If you get a chance, try a P10. Pillows not over the nose and very low venting
Last night was my first night trying the P10 after using the Mirage FX for only 7 days... Granted I haven't spent 10 months getting accustomed to the Mirage, but the P10 was incredible. Venting was much softer and more quiet than the Mirage(although initially it felt harder to exhale against). I was able to sleep on my side/stomach much easier and didn't wake up to the whoosh sound of a leak because I pushed the mask over a little. Oh, and for bonus points I can wear my glasses with it on.

Definitely a new P10/Nasal pillow fan boy here!!

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by SGearhart » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:11 am

I too just tried the Airfit P-10 for the first time last night and fallen in love with it. I came from a F&P full mask to a Mirage Swift II to the P-10. You can use regular pillows and sleep in just about any position without problems. The only possible drawback to the P-10 is the non-adjustable headgear. Other than that, it's the "Cats Meow"!

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:31 am

englandsf wrote: P10. very low venting
*sigh*
the p10 vents just as much as any other mask. look at the vent rates in the back of the manual.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:33 am

SGearhart wrote:. The only possible drawback to the P-10 is the non-adjustable headgear.
check the resmed' p10 video on youtube for to 'adjust' the strap, if you haven't watched it yet.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by SGearhart » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:50 pm

PaleRider, thanks for the link. I found very useful. I was comparing the P10 headgear to the Mirage Swift II's. With the M-S II you can lock the seal down so tight , you could inflate a tire without a leak.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:33 pm

SGearhart wrote: With the M-S II you can lock the seal down so tight , you could inflate a tire without a leak.
not on my nose, you don't! it barely tolerates the light pressure of the p10!

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Kiddle » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:21 am

I am new here, but for what it is worth, I tried the FX Mirage. I sleep in all kinds of positions and it leaked when I moved. Then the Eson for 3 nights. No leaks but it pushed on a nerve on my cheek causing tooth pain. For the past 2 nights, I have the P10. I love it. It doesn't have the annoying flow vent that the mirage has.It doesn't put pressure on my skin. It stays in place with no leaks in all my sleeping positions and the tubing that attaches to the mask is extremely flexible in ALL directions. The tube doesn't pull on the mask at all. I find that this is the most comfortable mask of all.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Big Mike » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:42 pm

I have one nights opinion on the F&P Eson. Loved how my AHI dropped from a 1.6 average to 0.35 ! Leaks were lower too. I had been using a Swift FX because I used nasal pillow on my first stint with a CPAP years ago. They used the Eson for my titration so I got one and tried it last night.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by englandsf » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:38 pm

PR- I meant vent noise and blast

The P 10 seems to be the flavor of the moment...

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Rastaman » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:05 am

Big Mike wrote:I have one nights opinion on the F&P Eson. Loved how my AHI dropped from a 1.6 average to 0.35 ! Leaks were lower too. I had been using a Swift FX because I used nasal pillow on my first stint with a CPAP years ago. They used the Eson for my titration so I got one and tried it last night.
I've been using the Eson for about 2 or so weeks. So far, so good! I've gotten AHI's that low in the past since I started using it but not every night unfortunately. Last night I got 2.03 which is reasonably good. I was using a Comfort Gel Original prior to this latest mask with pretty good results but never numbers this low. Not sure if it's my new machine or the new mask or both that is giving me an average (so far) of 2.62 avg. AHI, which is considerably better than my previous machine and/or mask. I notice this mask stays on my head a little better too. It's that over the top of the head strap that seems to make a difference, at least for me.

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Re: Nasal Mask Options

Post by Mykale » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:41 am

I have tried both the Eson and P-10 masks and wanted to give a bit of feedback as to how they seem to work for me.

First the Eson. I had printed out the fitting/sizing template to decide what size cushion to go with. It seemed that the large was the closest so I ordered that one from my DME. I was able to wear it fairly loosely without any apparent leaks. The cushion when inflated sealed very well. I did notice a significant difference in AHI's when using the optional (according to the manual) foam diffuser. When using the diffuser I was getting average AHI's in the 3's and when using the mask without the diffuser it would drop a couple of points and AHI's were in the 1's. Directionality of the air both with the diffuser and without was aimed out and away from me so that was a good thing. Maybe not so much for the wife, however she claims she likes the air. At any rate the F&P Eson worked every bit as well as the Mirage FX that I have been using for the last 10 months. I did notice that strap marks with the Eson were a bit more pronounced even though the mask was worn on the loose side. Also the was a slight red mark on the bridge of my nose. The marks as always fade in a couple of hours.

Second the Airfit P10. I have been wanting to try a pillow mask in part to escape some of the stuff on my face at night. I ordered the P-10 online and have been putting it through it's paces the past several days. After reading many of the comments on the forum I tried the Large pillow first. I was unable to wear the P-10 all the way through the first night because after about 4 hours I was awakened with my nose aching from the pressure. I wear a 7 3/8 size hat so the strap was keeping it pretty snug. The next night I stretched the heck out of the strap before putting it back on and it has been free from nose pain since. The large pillow seemed to allow more air and was easier to breath at the start of treatment. I did notice that the sides of the pillow seemed to push into the area below my nose and above my upper lip. The AHI's were all below 5 but mostly 3 and above. I decided to give the medium size a try. It is just big enough to cover the nares and seems to seal very well. In addition when using the medium the AHI's are running in the 1's. Last night was a .6 which is low for me. Also the side edge of the medium pillow does not contact the area between my nose and upper lip. Strap marks are minimal and fade quickly.

Time will tell, however if my numbers remain low and comfort with lack of leaks remains high, I might very well be a new P-10 convert.

Thanks Pugsy for the suggestions! They were spot on...