Good idea, and that's my plan. My camping trip isn't until August so I'll have some time to mess with it at home.
New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
I am running on mains power but OP is proposing to use a https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Generat ... YVG4G?th=1 which has an inverter which he may or may not use.
Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Running with the inverter would be completely counterproductive. This is especially true with the Dreamstation which will run on 12V with a cheap cord (which the poster said he ordered). This particular powerpack doesn't have a 12V "cigarette lighter" socket, so it will need a 5.5 mm socket adapter (included?), which has become somewhat standard with these devices.Jack Burton wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:18 pmI am running on mains power but OP is proposing to use a https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Generat ... YVG4G?th=1 which has an inverter which he may or may not use.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
If it meets his needs then its fine.CapnLoki wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:49 pmRunning with the inverter would be completely counterproductive. This is especially true with the Dreamstation which will run on 12V with a cheap cord (which the poster said he ordered). This particular powerpack doesn't have a 12V "cigarette lighter" socket, so it will need a 5.5 mm socket adapter (included?), which has become somewhat standard with these devices.
It does mean though that my calculations include the inverter overhead and the switching power supply overhead.
I would try it through the inverter at home first.
Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
When talking cpap, "inverter BAD, direct 12v connection, GOOD".Jack Burton wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:52 pmIf it meets his needs then its fine.CapnLoki wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:49 pmRunning with the inverter would be completely counterproductive. This is especially true with the Dreamstation which will run on 12V with a cheap cord (which the poster said he ordered). This particular powerpack doesn't have a 12V "cigarette lighter" socket, so it will need a 5.5 mm socket adapter (included?), which has become somewhat standard with these devices.
It does mean though that my calculations include the inverter overhead and the switching power supply overhead.
I would try it through the inverter at home first.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Unless you buy a non standard like Resmed. K.I.S.S., if you want to play away from your house power. Jimpalerider wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:25 amWhen talking cpap, "inverter BAD, direct 12v connection, GOOD".Jack Burton wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:52 pmIf it meets his needs then its fine.CapnLoki wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:49 pmRunning with the inverter would be completely counterproductive. This is especially true with the Dreamstation which will run on 12V with a cheap cord (which the poster said he ordered). This particular powerpack doesn't have a 12V "cigarette lighter" socket, so it will need a 5.5 mm socket adapter (included?), which has become somewhat standard with these devices.
It does mean though that my calculations include the inverter overhead and the switching power supply overhead.
I would try it through the inverter at home first.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
You'd be wrong about that. The same principle applies. The ResMed converter is very efficient at boosting the voltage.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
It's hard to get more efficient than not having to use one, also it doesn't pack and carry it's self. Jim
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Which has absolutely nothing to do with your first erroneous allegation that "inverter bad, 12v connection good" doesn't apply some how with Resmeds.Goofproof wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:29 pmIt's hard to get more efficient than not having to use one, also it doesn't pack and carry it's self. Jim
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Welp, I bit the bullet and bought the battery. It came yesterday, and I used it overnight with great success. I pulled off the humidifier and ran just the CPAP on 12 volts. Dreammapper says I had 90% pressure at 8.5.
The battery has 5 lights to indicate it's charge, and when I woke up after 7.5 hours 4 of them were still lit.
The battery has 5 lights to indicate it's charge, and when I woke up after 7.5 hours 4 of them were still lit.
Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Sounds good. Which battery did you get?Thanantos wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:12 amWelp, I bit the bullet and bought the battery. It came yesterday, and I used it overnight with great success. I pulled off the humidifier and ran just the CPAP on 12 volts. Dreammapper says I had 90% pressure at 8.5.
The battery has 5 lights to indicate it's charge, and when I woke up after 7.5 hours 4 of them were still lit.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Can you explain this a little more? Going camping and trying to figure out what power pack to get. For now, 1 night at a time, but might be 2 nights down the line. I have the DreamStation, running at 13 pressure. I prefer the humidifier but if it uses too much juice I would be willing to go without. I don't think I use any other preheating or heated tubes.CapnLoki wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:49 pmRunning with the inverter would be completely counterproductive. This is especially true with the Dreamstation which will run on 12V with a cheap cord (which the poster said he ordered). This particular powerpack doesn't have a 12V "cigarette lighter" socket, so it will need a 5.5 mm socket adapter (included?), which has become somewhat standard with these devices.Jack Burton wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:18 pmI am running on mains power but OP is proposing to use a https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Generat ... YVG4G?th=1 which has an inverter which he may or may not use.
The electricity stuff is over my head, so not sure about wH, amps, etc. Most are listed in watt hours but then I see figure about amp hours as well. I assumed I would just plug my machine with the regular cord, but sounds like a cigarette lighter connection is better? And want to make sure I have enough power. If it was 2 nights, would it be feasible to stick in the car and run the car to recharge the pack? Or would that take forever?
The only other device I need to charge is a medical device for my daughter. I'm trying to get more info on the needs for that, from the brochure it lists it as a "Rechargeable lithium ion battery, 3.7V, 1000 mAh". Again, didn't know if the 3.7V was total, or per hour or something?
Also saw mention you recommend Thanantos to get a lithium pack for charging in the car/motorcycle but not familiar with this.
Thanks so much for all the info on this site, would be way more confused without it!
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
So...if I want to adapt this setup, not for the road, but for home use when we frequently lose power in the middle of the night (solar system, we didn't buy enough storage batteries, rookie mistake), will the "battery tender" keep me from aging the battery prematurely if I keep it plugged in to wall power at all times? I'm looking for a UPS-like solution to run a PR 560P with humidifier and heated hose seamlessly during power failures.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
His main battery thread his here: viewtopic/t114012/Choosing-a-Battery.htmlDrowsy Dancer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:28 amSo...if I want to adapt this setup, not for the road, but for home use when we frequently lose power in the middle of the night (solar system, we didn't buy enough storage batteries, rookie mistake), will the "battery tender" keep me from aging the battery prematurely if I keep it plugged in to wall power at all times? I'm looking for a UPS-like solution to run a PR 560P with humidifier and heated hose seamlessly during power failures.
It's long, but well worth the time to read it.
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Re: New Battery and Amp-Hour Data
Thanks. After another night of interrupted sleep figuring this out is my priority project for today. Headed to the city tomorrow so may be able to buy a pretty box for my ultimate setup.palerider wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:40 amHis main battery thread his here: viewtopic/t114012/Choosing-a-Battery.htmlDrowsy Dancer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:28 amSo...if I want to adapt this setup, not for the road, but for home use when we frequently lose power in the middle of the night (solar system, we didn't buy enough storage batteries, rookie mistake), will the "battery tender" keep me from aging the battery prematurely if I keep it plugged in to wall power at all times? I'm looking for a UPS-like solution to run a PR 560P with humidifier and heated hose seamlessly during power failures.
It's long, but well worth the time to read it.
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Additional Comments: Software: SleepyHead. Pressure: APAP 9.5 min/11 max, A-Flex x2 |
How we squander our hours of pain. -- Rilke