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Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Tango » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:18 am

I read a few posts that were written a few months back. But, they were not sure about what was what. One posts mentioned that the data collected might not be what the the s9 and prs1auto collect. Does anyone know if the airsense 10 collects the same data that the s9 collects. Everyone seems to enjoy the data collected and I don't want to get a cpap that collects limited data? Thx

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Pugsy » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:41 am

My understanding is that the full data AirSense models (Elite and AutoSet) collect the same data as the prior S9 models and they have added Periodic Breathing or otherwise called Cheyene Stokes Respiration in all the full data models and RERAs but those are only in the "for her auto algorithm" (which the PR S1 machines already collect). Not less data but more data.
Right now SleepyHead won't work with the AirSense models but ResScan 5.1 will and that's easy to obtain. Only drawback with ResScan other than it's a big slow hog is that it doesn't have a Mac version available. It's strictly Windows software.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:05 pm

As long as I can see all the summary numbers on the color screen, I can wait for my Sleepyhead.
The DME just ordered my AS10 today.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Guest » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:03 pm

I think I am leaning back towards the airsense 10.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Pugsy » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:25 pm

Guest wrote:I think I am leaning back towards the airsense 10.
You know ResMed has always made a quality product. Yeah a few lemons here and there but every brand has them...it's part of life.
I wouldn't be afraid to try the AirSense if I was in the market for a new APAP. I think I would want the "For Her" model though because it has that extra auto mode available and it might come in handy. I would want it even if I was a guy, I think. Especially if I was having some issues with my therapy (numbers look good on paper but I felt like crap)...just in case this new mode might help.

I think that they (ResMed) shouldn't have limited this new algorithm to just women as their target market.
I guess they are trying to pay us back for 20 years of having to wear men's masks. before the days of masks designed for women's smaller features.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Tango » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:00 pm

I was watching a YouTube video for the airsense 10. Autoset
It says I just put the mask on press start. No need to input any data?
Does the machine find what you need and apply the pressure the algorithm requests?
This seems different than the s9 and prs 1 Autoset?. Don't you need to input your sleep data and set a pressure first?
They say the airsense 10 is easier because you just press start.
Can someone verify this. Is it easier because it automatically finds the needed pressure and applies it? With or wih out my consent.
I am getting in my car and heading out to get the new machine in a few minutes. Probably going with the airsense 10.
Thx for all the help.
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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by englandsf » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:03 pm

As far as I know it still needs setting, for pressure, mask type, exhale relief, auto humidity levels and other settings. Do you have your script and know how to do this - or are you getting your DME to do it for you? That's what happened for me.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by archangle » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:35 pm

There's a model called the "AirSense 10 CPAP." The name is a bit confusing because they're all "CPAP" machines. We need to figure out a good way to make this clear.

I think the A10 Elite and AutoSet models are at least as good in data collection as the corresponding S9 models, other than SleepyHead not supporting them yet. The A10 AutoSet for Her also collects RERA data and would be a good idea even for male apneacs.

I haven't seen a clear specification, but I think the A10 "CPAP" model gives you daily average numbers, not airflow waveforms and the time of events. If I'm right, it's sort of like the S9 Escape Auto in terms of data collection, but doesn't do Auto.

I would avoid the base A10 "CPAP" model until we verify this.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:50 pm

With my first machine (S9 Elite) all the setting was done for me.
After visiting this forum for a few months, I crawled out of my comfort zone,
bought the S9 AutoSet, and started doing my own setting.
A few weeks in, I had my first visit with the sleep doc.
Poor guy, I think I overwhelmed him--but he's totally on MY ride now.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by palerider » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:10 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:A few weeks in, I had my first visit with the sleep doc.
Poor guy, I think I overwhelmed him--but he's totally on MY ride now.
yeah, well, a talking frog will do that to a lot of people.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by silver123 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:41 pm

I have the AS 10 for Her. Yes, there is more data just as Pugsy wrote, periodic breathing and RERAs. Yes, you have to set it up or have it set up to the appropriate pressure(s) , depending what mode you run it in, just as you would for an S9 Autoset.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Tino2You » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:20 am

Does anyone know if the bird call noise has been fixed in the AS10?
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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:26 am

Apparently the "hoot" was not on every unit, as only a few complained about it.
My hearing isn't sharp enough to bother me, but anyone with delicate ears might want to wait,
or insist on plugging one in before taking it home. Not unreasonable, I would think.

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Re: Airsense10 and data collection

Post by Pugsy » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:32 am

Tino2You wrote:Does anyone know if the bird call noise has been fixed in the AS10?
That remains to be seen. It's going to take someone who experienced the bird call with their S9 getting a new AirSense and using it to see if it is still there. Too soon to tell right now...and not all S9 users experienced it.
Newbies who never had a S9 won't know what we are talking about and unless they start complaining of a weird noise on exhale...we won't know if that's what they are heating. If a new to cpap therapy AirSense user doesn't complain of the bird call...it might or might not mean much because the same newbie might not have experienced it with the S9 since not all S9 users had the pleasure.

ResMed's official stance on the exhale noise was no stance as they didn't consider it to be a problem...at least officially so I don't know if they took steps to fix something that they didn't officially see a broken.

Now I did experience the bird call with my S9 VPAP...but it was very, very minor and directly related to the force of my own exhale as I could easily manipulate the loudness of the bird call with just the force of my breathing.
Unfortunately I am not in a position to test the AirSense machine at this time....and since I also think the bird call was relative to pressures used...just because people use different pressures and have different breathing patterns and different personal sensitivity to the noise... it wouldn't be a good test anyway.

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