Hybernite & PR System One settings?

Well, I am just now getting my CPAP and trying to get started. I have a Hybernite Heated Breathing Tube and the PR System One 60 series CPAP. When I got home from DME, I noticed a sheet that said to turn off the System Once humidification control on the PAP devices. I figured out how to do that. But I had read some place that there are three tube sizes and that when you turn on your machine with the Hybernite that it will switch to 15H automatically. I don't have that option. All there is, is 22 & 15. 15H is not available. My DME didnt even know that I was supposed to turn off the System One humidification. (Someone in the office told him that was true.) So do I need the 15H setting? Will it make a difference?

Do you have the stand alone Hybernite heated hose or do you have the Respironics heated hose that is made to go with the PR S1 60 series machine?
They aren't the same thing.

If you have the Hybernite then yes, they want you go go back to Classic mode and turn off the new fancy mode. It is a 22 mm hose choice.

If you have the Respironics heated hose the machine will automatically choose the correct hose size. The machine won't recognize the Hybernite hose at all and won't switch anything. You have to manually choose 22 mm.

I do have the Hybernite. I had wanted a heated hose, and that's what I got. I didn't realize there were other choices. Is it better to have the System One humidification? The hose does look on the narrow side. I guess that's why I thought it would be the 15. But I need to change it back to 22?

I had the Hybernite 2300 and it was definitely 22 mm diameter.
If you have a different series number it might be different so look in your paperwork carefully. I am not familiar with all the Hybernite models but I did own the 2300.

You want to turn off System One Humidification when using the Hybernite because you are going to want Classic Mode.
The new fancy System One Humidification Mode uses humidity sensors that are going to have trouble with the heated hose air because the air gets fairly warm. I think you would find the air way too dry. The "new humidification mode" uses considerably less water than Classic Mode.. I think it would feel too dry.

When measuring hose diameter it gets tricky when the hose is smaller than the coupling end. All the couplings are 22 mm....even the 15 mm hose from Respironics has a 22 mm coupling. This is so all hoses will fit all machines.

Why didn't you just get the heated hose that Respironics makes for the 60 series machine?

For the last few winters I have used a Hibernite 22mm hose with classic mode humidification on my PR S1 ASV machine (and earlier my PR S1 auto). Works great, tho there is no heat adjustment available on the Hibernite hose, therefore I find the hose a little too warm for the summer months... then I simply use a regular 22mm hose. No big deal. BTW, I like the classic mode on PRs because it gets a lot more humidity into the therapy air. I tend to mouth breathe with my FFM so I like the moist air.

For anybody else who wants to experiment with PRs Classic Mode type this into your INTERNET BROWSER SEARCH WINDOW, not the CPAPtalk search window, it's not very proficient.

site:cpaptalk.com classic mode

Well, it takes a bit for my brain to wrap around everything. I breathe through my mouth and keep my room very cold. I was td a heated humidifier hose would be helpful. I asked for one and got the Hybernite. I haven't used it yet. Shod I return it or ask for something else?

If you have the 60 series equipment they make a special heated hose to work with the 60 series equipment.
I don't know why your DME didn't tell you about it.
Even if you don't have the power supply and special lid for it...it's optional....upgrading is easy.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-hea ... e-kit.html

It's not like the Hybernite is dirt cheap anyway unless they gave you something other than the 2300 which was hugely less expensive.

The heated hose that is available for the 60 series machine that Respironics makes....is superior to the Hybernite because it allows for greater customization of both the temperature and the humidity.
Read about it here
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-sys ... ifier.html

Now if you have a 50 series machine then the Hybernite is the way to go but if you really have a 60 series machine I would be upgrading things.
Check the power supply...does it show 60 watt or 80 watt on that brick?

With the Hybernite you don't have any control over air temp and about all you can do is dump lots of moisture into the air (that's what Classic Mode will do) and then the heat in the Hybernite prevents the condensation from the larger humidity in the air.
It works well but the real heated hose that Respronics makes that allows for more independent settings of both humidity to be delivered and the air temperature is superior IMHO...and I own a 60 series machine and I got the Respironics heated hose and that's why I sold the Hybernite.

Thanks for the input! I love this site! So helpful. I've called the DME and asked to exchange hose for Respironics'. I think they will get it for me.

Make sure that you get/have the correct lid for the humidifier and have the higher power source (80 watt) or else that new hose won't heat.

Some of the 60 series machine came already for the heated hose but others didn't and thus the need for the upgrade kt.

The upgrade kit is no big deal. My 60 series machine didn't come heated hose ready so I just bought the upgrade kit from cpap.com and fixed it up myself. It's easy to do.

Oh, I don't have the 80 watt power. So what does that say about my model? I haven't used it yet. Should I ask for different one. The assured me it was 60 series before I took it home. Didn't know what else to check.

Just look on the bottom of the blower unit for a 3 digit number....might have REF in front of the numbers.
If it is a 60 series machine it will have 60 as the last 2 digits.
460/560/660

If it were the older 50 series 450/550/650 and the interface where the LCD screen is shows a light gray/silver instead of dark gray.

You probably got the 60 series machine without the optional heated hose equipment (which is the 80 watt power supply, the humidifier lid that has a little plug in thing for electric to the hose and of course the special heated hose.)
Not a big deal. The heated hose stuff isn't needed by everyone so Respironics packaged some with it included and some without.
DMEs probably buy whichever costs the least and worry about upgrading as needed on a case by case basis.

It says 560P. It also says can be used with 70 or 80 watt power. (Mine is 60)

You will want the 80 watt power supply. The extra draw from the heating of the hose will require it.

Should I ask DME for it? I know they are getting tired of me. (They gave me Nuance mask instead of Nuance Pro. I'm making them get it for me. Then bugged them for heated hose. Now wanting Redpironics hose. Now asking them to get 80 watt power supply.
I had wanted a ResMed but they heavy persuaded me to get PR. I just want the best as I will be stuck with it for 4 years. Don't like to be a pest though.

The DME has available to the that same upgrade kit that cpap.com offers (I linked to it above) and you will need that full kit to make use of the Respironics heated hose. So if they are going to swap out the heated hoses...they also need to make sure that you have the proper power adaptation. Right now if they gave you the heated hose there's nothing to power it on your machine.
The special lid is needed along with the higher power source.
They should already know this. You should expect it as part of their service and you shouldn't have to ask or demand it.
CPap.com sells the entire kit which includes the heated hose, special lid and power source for $75....and they make a profit. It's no different with your DME. They can supply the upgrade kit and they should supply it. It would be really stupid of them to give you the heated hose with no way to power it.

You and your insurance are paying top dollar for their services...make them earn it. It's their job. They work for you.