do you have faith in Homeopathy?

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:57 am

Oh look, Prince Charles is bringing his homeopathic quackery to us - http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... _dt_fb_top

How disgusting!

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by Julie » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:12 am

Well, he has nothing else to do with himself (at his age!). Disgusting for sure.

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by archangle » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:47 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:Oh look, Prince Charles is bringing his homeopathic quackery to us - http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... _dt_fb_top

How disgusting!
Can we throw his homeopathic remedies into Boston harbor? Would that change the whole bay into homeopathic medicine?

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by Julie » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:05 pm

Tea, but in invisible, undetectable, useless amounts.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:14 pm

archangle wrote:Can we throw his homeopathic remedies into Boston harbor? Would that change the whole bay into homeopathic medicine?
Good idea archangle!

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Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:17 pm

Homeopathy could be extrapolated to mean if I smell bacon, I don't need to eat any?
That just doesn't sound right!

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by archangle » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:05 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Homeopathy could be extrapolated to mean if I smell bacon, I don't need to eat any?
That just doesn't sound right!
After you smell the bacon, you need to be beaten with a silver rod to properly succuss you. After that, you will be crispybacon instead of chunkyfrog.

I always want to type Crunchy Frog when I try to type your username. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

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Post by palerider » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:24 am

chunkyfrog wrote:Homeopathy could be extrapolated to mean if I smell bacon, I don't need to eat any?
That just doesn't sound right!
as I understand it, if you can actually still smell the bacon, it's not diluted enough to count!

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by Hosehead4ever » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:18 pm

Homeopathy works by placebo effect at best. At worst, it kills people who use it in lieu of actual medicine. And in my personal opinion, it's about as effective as the laying on of hands.

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:24 pm

KatyDidAgain wrote:the laying on of hands
"Put the part of your body that hurts on the radio."

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:09 pm

http://kfgo.com/news/articles/2015/mar/ ... framework/

FDA to evaluate homeopathy regulatory framework
Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:37 p.m. CDT

(Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said it would hold a public hearing seeking information and comment on the use of products labeled 'homeopathic', as well as the agency's regulatory framework for such products.

The hearing, scheduled for April 20-21, will discuss prescription drugs, biological products, and over-the-counter drugs labeled homeopathic, a market that has expanded to become a multimillion dollar industry in the United States.

The agency is set to evaluate its regulatory framework for homeopathic products after a quarter century. (http://1.usa.gov/1Hxwup3)

An Australian government study released this month concluded that homeopathy does not work. (http://bit.ly/1BheAmR)

The FDA issued a warning earlier this month asking consumers not to rely on asthma products labeled homeopathic that are sold over the counter. (http://1.usa.gov/1EEuKrC).

Homeopathic medicines include pellets placed under the tongue, tablets, liquids, ointments, sprays and creams.

The basic principles of homeopathy, formulated by German physician Samuel Hahnemann in the late 18th century, are based on a theory that a disease can be treated using small doses of natural substances that in a healthy person would produce symptoms of the disease.

The agenda for the hearing will be posted soon, the FDA said on Tuesday.

(Reporting by Natalie Grover in Bengaluru; Editing by Sriraj Kalluvila)
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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by accurate » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:17 pm

So they're going to spend my tax dollars to figure out if it's true or not that if someone rubs jimsonweed paste on their temples and sews up a lizard's mouth they can tell the future?

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:08 am

Re: Venn Diagram
Good, but shouldn't there be an intersection (overlap) of the sets "Medicine as understood now" and "Woo"?

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Re: do you have faith in Homeopathy?

Post by ClayL » Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:57 pm

Captain_Midnight wrote:Thanks for the opinion and the link (which I did not visit, as I choose to avoid aljezeera).

As a scientist, I'm not a huge fan of homeopathy. IIRC however, I do seem to recall that homeopaths prefer small or minimal dosages of prescriptions, and if that is the case, there might be some merit to that approach for some patients.

I do believe that there is a place for alternative medicine, including the substitution of natural products for Rxs in some cases. (For example, one suspects that big pharma mjust hates fish oil, vitamin D, and magnesium.)

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Minimal is an understatement. They take one drop of something that can cause the problem and mix it in a gallon of water (for example if you want to cure vomiting you use something that will cause vomiting).
Then they take a drop of that solution and mix it a new gallon of water. They do that a number of times until there is no detectable ammout in the last solution. That is minimal for sure.
They claim that the "essence" of the compound modifies the water in some magical way so that it becomes therapeutic.
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