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SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Tatooed Lady » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:34 pm

Is there any reason that all current compliance info from multiple xPAP machines can't be combined onto one SD card for the DME? Maybe make separate files for each brand xPAP?
I'm a bit bored, and want to annoy the DOT doc when I eventually have to go show compliance...and I know my PRS1 with modem takes care of most of that, but right now I'm juggling machines at home, testing this and that...

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Amenite » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:27 pm

Tatooed Lady wrote:...
I'm a bit bored, and want to annoy the DOT doc when I eventually have to go show compliance...
Print out a separate paper report for each day? That would probably annoy them

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Krelvin » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:49 pm

Use a different language setting for each report.

Answer to your question might depend on the machine types, resmed I don't think will work that way.
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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:50 pm

Amenite wrote:
Tatooed Lady wrote:...
I'm a bit bored, and want to annoy the DOT doc when I eventually have to go show compliance...
Print out a separate paper report for each day? That would probably annoy them
probably not a good idea.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Tatooed Lady » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:59 pm

Amenite wrote:
Tatooed Lady wrote:...
I'm a bit bored, and want to annoy the DOT doc when I eventually have to go show compliance...
Print out a separate paper report for each day? That would probably annoy them
All in hieroglyphs. ..or Klingon. *snort* let me just clarify...I want to annoy a doc...not get failed for pushing things too far...or going broke on ink and paper. And PR, before you ask...YES GP would miss a pallet of copy paper...or Costco...or Sam's Club...lol

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by palerider » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:54 pm

Tatooed Lady wrote:
Amenite wrote:
Tatooed Lady wrote:...
I'm a bit bored, and want to annoy the DOT doc when I eventually have to go show compliance...
Print out a separate paper report for each day? That would probably annoy them
All in hieroglyphs. ..or Klingon. *snort* let me just clarify...I want to annoy a doc...not get failed for pushing things too far...or going broke on ink and paper. And PR, before you ask...YES GP would miss a pallet of copy paper...or Costco...or Sam's Club...lol

pfft, paper's cheap, (half a cent a page, ish, assuming it doesn't fall off your truck) you don't really need a pallet worth, a case (10 reams) would last you 13 and a half years... it's the INK that would bankrupt you...

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:40 pm

You can keep all the PR S1 data on one card and both Encore and Sleepyhead will be just fine with it.
In fact you can use one SD card with all the various PR S1 machines if you can remember to keep the card with you. Each PR S1 will have a separate folder for each machine on the card.

I don't know about adding the S9 data to that card and have it work with the software. I know the S9 machine itself won't accept a SD card with the PR S1 data on it.
I have never considered just storing all the machines data on one card strictly for reporting purposes though.
When you get your S9 you can play with a blank card and see what happens. Just combine the data from the 2 brands on a separate card and create a new user profile in your software and see what happens.

For compliance purposes in your situation...as long as the data is available in some manner if requested. DOT inspectors know about how to pull compliance data from these machines....hubby just told me the other day about a driver who got a 36 hour hold because when inspected and found he had a cpap machine...he hadn't been using it. This was an inspection at the scales. Someone had to go get his trailer and make his delivery for him...safety department was not happy with him and he thought he should get layover pay..... fat chance on that one.

I don't know what is needed to keep your safety department happy in terms of compliance documentation. From what I can tell it can vary with different trucking companies. If having 2 brands of machine data on one card doesn't stop the software for each from pulling the data...you can tell them if you can do it then they can. They will need ResScan software though if the VPAP is going to be used on the road and if they require ongoing regular compliance proven documentation.
So if they don't have ResScan (and they likely won't trust SleepyHead or want to make the effort) you may have to supply a hard copy of the compliance report from the VPAP.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Sleeprider » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:54 pm

I use a single SD card and swap between a PRS1 auto and the BiPAP. No problem, the compliance data as well as details displays properly on EncoreBasic and Sleepyhead.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:01 pm

Yep...with the PR S1 machines no one cares..not the machine nor either software. I think I had at one time a SD card with 5 different PR S1 machine data on it...from a 550 to a 650 to a 750 to a 660 to a 760.
I never thought to add S9 data to that card when I got my first S9 VPAP Auto to see what would happen. I know that the PR S1 wouldn't care but I don't know what would happen with trying to import to the brand software (Encore and ResMed).
The S9 itself won't allow anything else on that SD card but one doesn't have to necessarily use that SD with all the machines on it in the S9....a separate cared for the S9 itself to be inserted and that data transferred to the SD card used for just storage of the data.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Sleeprider » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:07 pm

Well never let it be said Pugsy doesn't sleep around.

I've lost count of how many machines you have.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:17 pm

Sleeprider wrote:Well never let it be said Pugsy doesn't sleep around.

I've lost count of how many machines you have.

I didn't mention the M series machines I have had (2 of them) and the fact that I have had more than 1 PR S1 model 550...
or the S9 VPAP Auto I have used and the now S9 VPAP Adapt.
The 650 was a 3 night deal where I was testing a used BiPap for a friend to make sure it worked like it should and I liked it so much the first night I used it another 2 nights before I sent it to its new home.

I lost count for the most part.. What has happened is usually I find a good deal on a machine and then I sell my slightly used machine to someone and they get a good deal too....I get some more money so I can then look for more good deals and start the process all over again.
I have a 660 right now that isn't used that I need to part with ...and a 760 that I probably should part with but it has some hours on it so it isn't worth as much...and the 660 has low hours but people want autos so that drives the value down.
So I haven't pushed selling them. I fell in love with the S9 Adapt...I can't see myself going back but I might....right now I have been drooling over the new AirCurve ASV but that purchase (if it ever happens) is WAY in the future due to price. I don't or can't pay anywhere near retail and it will take a while for those machines to filter down to the secondary or gray market where I can afford them.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Sleeprider » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:26 pm

Interesting. I just recently left the M series auto I had for 19000 hours, and have since December acquired a 660 and 760. It would be very interesting to try an ASV machine, but then again, when it's not something you need, why? Can you imagine if the specialists would actually take the time to really understand the use and capabilities of these machines? I mean, it only requires a healthy curiosity.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:40 pm

Sleeprider wrote:It would be very interesting to try an ASV machine, but then again, when it's not something you need, why?
For me it was curiosity..plain and simple. I know some other forum members who got their hands on and ASV (and didn't technically need it if one is thinking centrals) but found that they loved it and slept better and felt better and got the ASV machines at prices that were really good deals....so when I got a chance to get a good deal I got one and tried it. I knew I could always turn around and sell it and get my money back. What surprised me was how comfortable it was to me after hearing all the complaints about the pressures and all that. One night was all it took for me to realize I wouldn't be selling it. Long story there that I documented somewhere in a thread here. Yeah, I see the higher pressures sometimes but I sleep right through them and sleep fairly decently considering my other health issues that mess with my sleep. So any help I get in terms of sleep quality I tend to jump on it and want to keep it.

I like to experiment when I can and something interests me. If I am not interested I don't bother spending the money but if I am interested and I have the money ...I will try something new because I like to try new things and learn and compare.
Mask or machine..if I can and it looks interesting I will try it. The Wisp looked interesting so I tried it...hated it.
The Nano looked interesting but I really had my doubts about it after my experience with the Wisp but I found out I had great success with the Nano. Not that the Nano would surpass nasal pillows as my preferred mask type but interesting that I did well with it and I kept it just in case I ever was in a situation where I couldn't use the nasal pillows.
I won't try full face masks...long story there but they simply don't interest me and I have issues with various physical factors that come with full face masks that are make it or break it factors in terms of my using one.

So now you know why I do what I do...for fun. Not because I am unhappy with something I am currently using.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by -tim » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:00 am

A resmed S9 will wipe out the data written by other S9 machines unless they fixed the firmware. An S9 basically copies its internal data to the SD card and gets rid of what it thinks is old data.

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Re: SD cards, multiple machines

Post by Sleeprider » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:09 am

Thanks Pugsy for the explanation. I am increasingly experimenting with different technology myself, and would try an ASV if one was available. I do get a number of central and PB episodes that I think would benefit from a timed breath, and notice the BiPAP has just enough pressure to initiate a breath "I forgot" when I 'm in a sleep transition.

I think the willingness to explore is fun for you, and of course your experience is shared with many. Thanks.

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