What is a pressure pulse?

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What is a pressure pulse?

Post by AV Junkie » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:28 pm

I was looking at the data from last night with sleepyhead and it is shows a large clump of pressure pulses.

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I think I may have answered my own question but it looks like I was knocking my mask off.

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Would that be a correct assumption? I know I took it off for a couple hours. Just not sure if knocking it around caused those pulses....

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by palerider » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:21 pm

first, a pressure pulse is your machine's way of seeing whether your throat has closed up or you've simply stopped trying to breath (obstructive vs central apnea) it sends a pulse and watches to see how much the pressure bumps becuase of it, more bump, obstrucive, less bump, central.

you didn't knock your mask OFF, or the leak rate would have gone way up, and it didn't.

times like this is when it's nice for you to have filled out your profile so someone could offer a suggestion about what might have happened with your mask, but, you haven't listed what your mask is.

it looks like maybe you knocked it sideways, or you're using a nasal mask and you started breathing through your mouth, which is why there's no flow trace.

I'm just guessing since there's no info on what you're using.

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by JDS74 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:23 pm

Respironics machines generate pressure pulses when the machine detects no breathing (not mask off massive leakage) and uses them to differentiate between a obstructive event with the airway blocked and a clear airway (central type ) event. If the airway is open but you are not breathing, then the pressure response is minimal. If the airway is blocked, then the pressure response is larger and the system determines an obstructive event.

In your chart, the pressure pulses are associated with a clear airway event followed by what looks like an extended obstructive event. Resolution of your image makes it a little hard to be sure as the CA and OA tags look similar because of blurring.

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by AV Junkie » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:37 am

palerider wrote:times like this is when it's nice for you to have filled out your profile so someone could offer a suggestion about what might have happened with your mask, but, you haven't listed what your mask is.

it looks like maybe you knocked it sideways, or you're using a nasal mask and you started breathing through your mouth, which is why there's no flow trace.

I'm just guessing since there's no info on what you're using.
Not sure why it wasn't showing before but I updated it again. The mouth breathing makes sense because my mouth was dry and my throat hurt in the morning.

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by Sludge » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:17 am

Those look like Psearch to me.
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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by JDS74 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:05 am

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44743&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Here is an earlier discussion of psearch.

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by Sludge » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:31 am

JDS74 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44743&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Here is an earlier discussion of psearch.
Please stop doing arbitrary word searches and posting the first link you find in order to try to make yourself look like you know what you're talking about.

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Re: What is a pressure pulse?

Post by palerider » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:52 am

Sludge wrote:
JDS74 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44743&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Here is an earlier discussion of psearch.
Please stop doing arbitrary word searches and posting the first link you find in order to try to make yourself look like you know what you're talking about.

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yeah, no shit, talk about a worthless link!

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