What does this mean?

I'm using a System One with humidifier and a heated tube. The manual says something about the "classic style of basic temperature controlled heated humidification..." What does that mean?

Actually, I woke up just now because the air getting to my nose and mouth was too warm. How do I reduce the temperature without decreasing the amount of moisture in the air?

Thanks.

Classic mode is the way we used to do it back before we had heated hoses and sensors that could tell humidity in the room.
It's heat only...more heat equals more humidity and the heat is more more continuous than the new system one humidification mode this is the default for all PR S1 machines that aren't using a heated hose.
I found it warmed the air more than the new humidification mode does so I don't think it will give you what you want.
You could try it though and see if a lower setting will still provide adequate moisture.

If your machine is a 50 series machine I don't know of a way to reduce the air temp in the hose without also reducing the moisture in the in the air. Classic mode is an option but my past experience with it was it warmed the air more.
If you have a 60 series machine then actually the heated hose might be able to get it done but you would need the heated hose and have a 60 series machine that is heated hose capable.

Thanks. Apparently this is a series 60 and as I said, I have a heated hose.

This AM, I found -- under Settings -- a toggle to switch the heated tube on and off.

I'll try to remember that.

Okay.
I didn't see anything in your original post that mentioned that you had a 60 series machine heated hose and your humidifier choice points to a 50 series humidifier which of course only works with the 50 series machine.
So that's what I thought you had.
I missed the heated hose part of your statement. My bad. Sorry.

When you have time you might want to update your equipment profile to avoid further confusion.
Or keep your signature as it is now showing the machine model.

As you have found out...with the heated hose you can set temperature and humidity settings independent of each other. You can maximize humidity if you wish and turn off the heated hose part if you wish.
Or lower the temperature of the air in the hose.
Remember it starts with room air ambient temp and goes from there...setting of 1 adds 4 degrees to room air temp...setting of 5 adds 16 degrees.
So it all starts with bedroom temp...if you have an already warm bedroom you may not need or want added warmth but if have a cold bedroom like I do then you may want more warmth.

Pugsy wrote: As you have found out...with the heated hose you can set temperature and humidity settings independent of each other. You can maximize humidity if you wish and turn off the heated hose part if you wish.
Or lower the temperature of the air in the hose.

Well, I saw that I could set the humidity level 1-5, and how to turn the hose off. But didn't see how to adjust the temperature of the air in the hose. Where is that documented?

Pugsy wrote:Okay.
I didn't see anything in your original post that mentioned that you had a 60 series machine heated hose...

It's in my signature.

You've got the wrong machine chosen in your profile right now...it's showing the "Plus" and not the Pro.

Read here about your options with the heated hose.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-sys ... ifier.html
If the heated hose is attached then this applies.

Settings 1 through 5 are ONLY for the air temp.

Settings 1 through 3 are for the humidity selection (70,80 or 90% with 3 being 90%) and this setting is only available in the clinical setup menu. You don't/can't change this unless you are in the clinical setup menu.

This humidifier offers three levels of humidification (70, 80 or 90 percent) and the heated tube has five levels of temperature available, ranging from 4 to 16 degrees above the room temperature. These two features work together to deliver the optimum humidification level at the mask.

pikov22 wrote:

Pugsy wrote:Okay.
I didn't see anything in your original post that mentioned that you had a 60 series machine heated hose...

It's in my signature.

er, your signature isn't on your first post. and even so, the one that's there now doesn't say you've got the 60 series heated hose.

Machine: System One REMStar Pro C-Flex+ DS460P
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow
SysOne Heated Humidifier

there are other heated hoses out there, and pugsy tries not to assume, because mistakes are made that way.

also, there's a difference in the "system one heated humidifier" and the "system one 60 series heated humidifier"

Pugsy wrote:You've got the wrong machine chosen in your profile right now...it's showing the "Plus" and not the Pro.

OK, Changed.

pugsy wrote:Read here about your options with the heated hose.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-sys ... ifier.html
If the heated hose is attached then this applies.

Settings 1 through 5 are ONLY for the air temp.

Settings 1 through 3 are for the humidity selection (70,80 or 90% with 3 being 90%) and this setting is only available in the clinical setup menu. You don't/can't change this unless you are in the clinical setup menu.

This humidifier offers three levels of humidification (70, 80 or 90 percent) and the heated tube has five levels of temperature available, ranging from 4 to 16 degrees above the room temperature. These two features work together to deliver the optimum humidification level at the mask.

"System One Humidification Mode
The System One Humidification uses the technology of the system to set the level of humidification delivered. The machine makes the decision based on the humidity present in the room air. The CPAP user decides how much they want to receive. A setting of 1 delivers the lowest humidity level and a setting of 5 delivers the highest level. The humidification setting will show 1 - 5. "

Humidity but not temperature.

Where do you see the settings for the tube temperature?

pikov22 wrote:Where do you see the settings for the tube temperature?

Settings 1 through 5 (which is 4 to 16 degrees above ambient room temp)...available in the clinical setup menu along with humidity (1 through 3) if you want to do it there or simply what I call "on the fly" by turning the knob on the blower to adjust between 1 through 5.

So you can do it either place when it comes to hose air temperature but the actual amount of humidity to be delivered is ONLY available in the clinical set up menu when the heated hose is attached.

Now you must have the heated hose attached while in the clinical menu....I had one person keep telling me that they couldn't find it but it was because they had taken the hose off to dry or something and it wasn't back attached yet.
This only works when the heated hose is attached.

Pugsy wrote:

pikov22 wrote:Where do you see the settings for the tube temperature?

Settings 1 through 5 (which is 4 to 16 degrees above ambient room temp)...available in the clinical setup menu along with humidity (1 through 3) if you want to do it there or simply what I call "on the fly" by turning the knob on the blower to adjust between 1 through 5.

So you can do it either place when it comes to hose air temperature but the actual amount of humidity to be delivered is ONLY available in the clinical set up menu when the heated hose is attached.

Now you must have the heated hose attached while in the clinical menu....I had one person keep telling me that they couldn't find it but it was because they had taken the hose off to dry or something and it wasn't back attached yet.
This only works when the heated hose is attached.

Please refresh my memory as to how to access that clinical menu. Thanks.

pikov22 wrote: Please refresh my memory as to how to access that clinical menu.

Maybe save this link for when you forget again.
http://www.apneaboard.com/pr-system-one ... structions
It has pictures to help jog the memory.
I sometimes have to refer to it because I try the secret button pushing but I am in the wrong box and it won't work and then I get all flustered.

Once the device is powered, the home screen appears (it is a large box on the screen with four little boxes you can select by turning the control wheel). Turn the wheel to toggle between the 4 options and highlight "setup". Once setup is highlighted press and hold both the control wheel and ramp button on the device for at least 5 seconds. You will hear a double beep and the provider mode screen will appear.

There's also a little video at the bottom of the page at above link.

Pugsy wrote:

pikov22 wrote: Please refresh my memory as to how to access that clinical menu.

Maybe save this link for when you forget again.
http://www.apneaboard.com/pr-system-one ... structions
It has pictures to help jog the memory.
I sometimes have to refer to it because I try the secret button pushing but I am in the wrong box and it won't work and then I get all flustered.

Once the device is powered, the home screen appears (it is a large box on the screen with four little boxes you can select by turning the control wheel). Turn the wheel to toggle between the 4 options and highlight "setup". Once setup is highlighted press and hold both the control wheel and ramp button on the device for at least 5 seconds. You will hear a double beep and the provider mode screen will appear.

There's also a little video at the bottom of the page at above link.

Thanks. Now that you mention it, I have seen that before. Just feeling the effects of turning 80, I guess.