SleepHead Statistics anomaly

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by palerider » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:43 pm

cnaumann wrote: No one has asked me to upload an SD card. I don't even know how to do that.

I just realized that 8h20m could be the total of the oximetry session and all non-overlapping PRS1 sessions. I bet the AHI number changed after I imported the oximetry data and I did not notice it until the next day...
I've actually suggested you upload your sd card data, more than once in the thread... I figured an engineer would know how to operate dropbox. if that's incorrect, please let me know, I'll give you a url.

upload it to dropbox, post the share address, let others take a look at it, and see if it's something you're missing, or it's the oximetry data screwing up the calc.

but just saying "it's foobar"(sic) is a disservice to the people writing, and the people using the software.

btw, the phrase is "fubar", Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by cnaumann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:29 am

palerider wrote:
cnaumann wrote:
btw, the phrase is "fubar", Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.
or "Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition" if we are going to continue to pick nits. I prefer the term "foobar" because it not the acronym in question. It is also burned into my brain from ancient programming manuals.

You were not exactly polite or helpful when you 'suggested' that I upload the data. It was clear that you did not understand what I was seeing, called the post 'gibberish'. You never even asked a question about it.

I realize that my comments are a disservice to the people writing the software. I apologize for that.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by Pugsy » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:04 am

cnaumann wrote: I realize that my comments are a disservice to the people writing the software. I apologize for that.
What I suggest is that if your problem with the data persists and is repeatable...contact Mark who is SleepyHead's creator and help him fix the problem by providing any data that he needs so he can see what you are seeing in a repeatable setting.
SleepyHead has always had a little bug here or there when it comes to multiple sessions. SleepyHead is still Beta software and we expect bugs but the only way to fix bugs is to have them be repeatable so that Mark can sort out the issues.
I don't know if you are a victim of the known in the past "double session" bug which skewed the sessions and thus the AHI. Mark thought he had that bug eradicated but maybe it has reared its ugly head again. Maybe it's a different bug.

I also suggest that anytime SH shows something whacko in terms of the data that Encore software is needed to confirm or not if SH is really computing things wrongly. Mark needs the Encore data too.
Now, Mark has Encore if you do not have Encore so if you sent mark the raw data then he could use the raw data to see what you are seeing.

Perhaps instead of dissing SleepyHead in general we should try to figure out if what happened in your situation was just a fluke or a known bug that might happen with others.
Mark will need to see the raw data from your machine to be able to have any idea what has happened...if he has any chance at all of figuring out what happened.
My first thought was simply that you had so many sessions that Sleepyhead got confused...I don't know.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by cnaumann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:08 pm

Thanks Pugsy, that is good advice. I will try to follow up on it.

I need to do some additional tests and look at some past data, but I am pretty sure that it is the oximetry sessions not completely overlapping the PR1 session that have been causing the frustration and weirdness and that I have been experiencing with the AHI calculations. I will try to take it up with Mark directly if he is not already aware of it.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by palerider » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:56 pm

cnaumann wrote:
palerider wrote:
cnaumann wrote: btw, the phrase is "fubar", Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.
or "Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition" if we are going to continue to pick nits. I prefer the term "foobar" because it not the acronym in question. It is also burned into my brain from ancient programming manuals.
foobar
A common term found in unix/linux/bsd program help pages as space fillers for a word.
Or, can be used as a less intense or childish form of fubar.
To run the program, simply cd to the directory you installed it in like this:
user@localhost cd foo/bar
cnaumann wrote: You were not exactly polite or helpful when you 'suggested' that I upload the data. It was clear that you did not understand what I was seeing, called the post 'gibberish'. You never even asked a question about it.
actually, I quite understood what you were seeing, and attempted to get you to account for the discrepency in hours from your listing of the sessions on one day, and then the total hours, without a listing on the second day, without any accounting for what you changed in between them. for all anybody could guess, with the number of sessions you had, perhaps you took another nap and got lucky, and didn't realize that due to the exingencies of sleepyhead and persperonics and when each one of them thinks the day rolls over, you didn't realize that those hours added to yesterdays total... hence the repeated requests for raw data that were ignored.
cnaumann wrote: I realize that my comments are a disservice to the people writing the software. I apologize for that.
I've come to realize that your remarks, and the tone which you took were a large part of the irritation that I felt towards you in this thread. Mark is my friend, and here you come barrelling in here, a month ago, knowing practically nothing at all about being on cpap, and start arguing and nitpicking about things you don't understand, misreading posts and arguing what was said, offering in some cases bad advice, though presumably out of ignorance and not malice, and pretty much shooting your mouth off about everything... then you snap off an attack of something that Mark has put countless hours of his heart and soul into, with a half assed off the cuff post, and well... it just pissed me off.

for that, I apologize. I'm still cranky about it, but I'm working on letting it go. I'm sorry that I'm not better at that than I am.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by palerider » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:48 pm

Paul_H wrote:On the "Statistics" tab in SleepyHead, the "CPAP Statistics" summary lists my AHI for the Last 30 Days as 2.41.

However, the most recent (top) two rows in the "Changes to Prescription Settings" for AHI read: 20 days - 1.89, and 10 days - 1.51.

That doesn't seem to compute, to me. Any explanation for the apparent discrepancy?
I'm sorry that nobody has addressed your question

if you want to zip up your sd card and upload it to dropbox, I'll see if I can figure it out.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by cnaumann » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:03 pm

and here you come barrelling in here, a month ago, knowing practically nothing at all about being on cpap, and start arguing and nitpicking about things you don't understand,
guilty
misreading posts and arguing what was said,
guilty
offering in some cases bad advice, though presumably out of ignorance and not malice,
not sure what this is about
and pretty much shooting your mouth off about everything
guilty
then you snap off an attack of something that Mark has put countless hours of his heart and soul into, with a half assed off the cuff post, and well... it just pissed me off.
understandable
for that, I apologize. I'm still cranky about it, but I'm working on letting it go. I'm sorry that I'm not better at that than I am.

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Re: SleepHead Statistics anomaly

Post by Paul_H » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:28 pm

palerider wrote:
Paul_H wrote:On the "Statistics" tab in SleepyHead, the "CPAP Statistics" summary lists my AHI for the Last 30 Days as 2.41.

However, the most recent (top) two rows in the "Changes to Prescription Settings" for AHI read: 20 days - 1.89, and 10 days - 1.51.

That doesn't seem to compute, to me. Any explanation for the apparent discrepancy?
I'm sorry that nobody has addressed your question

if you want to zip up your sd card and upload it to dropbox, I'll see if I can figure it out.

Thanks - that's a kind offer. As you say, no one really addressed my specific question. I've been following this thread with interest; too bad some get irritated so easily. I'll zip it up when I have a chance, and put it on Dropbox.