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Re: CPAPfit Pillow Illustrations - feeback wanted

Post by M'ohms » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:07 pm

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Please feel free to comment on this illustration as well. I would appreciate that.[/quote]

I see that, in your illustration, you have drawn the lower shoulder in a position that would make sense if she were standing. Unfortunately, when you lay on a mattress, the lower shoulder is compressed between the mattress and the body. This affects the angle of the head and neck that don't exactly look like your drawing. In my case, if I lay on my side, the pillow must be quite a bit higher to accommodate my lower shoulder. If on my back, that higher pillow level would be too high. Like others, I am an active sleeper and spend time on my back and sides. I don' know how I would reconcile this.

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Re: CPAPfit Pillow Illustrations - feeback wanted

Post by SleepyEyes21 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:31 pm

SleepGuy wrote:
lytepole wrote:Hi SleepGuy -

I'm going to give you honest feedback based on someone who has never tried any "CPAP pillow" which I hope will help.

After reviewing your illustration, I went and looked at the pillow on Amazon. My next step was to also look at memory foam contour pillows and I actually placed a contoured memory foam pillow in my cart, but haven't purchased yet. It is immediately obvious how the memory foam contour pillows would help with the proper alignment as per the illustration. It may be helpful to a novice buyer to have a corresponding actual picture of your pillow in use with a back sleeper obtaining the cervical curve you reference or short video clip showing how to obtain the desired alignment. The other real pictures are all side sleepers or just the pillow, which leave an uninformed buyer having to fill in the blanks of how to get what looks like a rectangle into the shape recommended by your illustration.

I know a lot of people here love your pillow, but I haven't tried it yet, so I hope that my feedback might help you know how novice CPAP pillow users might view things.
lytepole, thanks for your feedback. I am working on more content. Did you see the video review? The guy who did that I think did a fine job explaining how the pillow works, how it's adjustable. My only comment on the video is that he has it oriented with the zipper "top" edge at the bottom view so you can't really see the gusset sleeping edge or the profile.

The pillow is really different than a pre-contoured pillow for many reasons. For one thing, memory foams build up heat. Also, they don't adjust higher than their cut. If it starts too shallow, then you have to put a towel or another pillow under it. Third, they really don't provide all that much support. It's kind of like an illusion because all of the support just melts away from the place that has the most pressure on it--plus it also pushes back, so you end up with a large pressure point wherever your body is pushing down the hardest on the pillow.

The CPAPfit doesn't do any of that: It's like a shapeable sleep platform that provides firm support right where you need it without pressure points....

I am thinking motion graphics will ultimately be the best way to demonstrate the pillow....Maybe that's where I need to focus some investment....
Hi SleepGuy - here's some feedback on the illustrations:

Like Afib - I was confused about the color of the 'airspace area' that is showing in pink. I also would suggest leaving it as white space, or something that clearly indicates there is no support in the neck area with a regular bed pillow. I am also thinking it might make more of an impression if the arrow colors were red and darker blue, as opposed to the lighter colors. For those that are just assessing the product visually, the brighter colors might catch their eye long enough for them to make the intended associations.

As for the side sleeper illustration - the pillow pictured looks exactly like the shape of a contoured foam pillow. Potential buyers might be confused by this, and think a less expensive contoured pillow would work just the same. I would suggest your illustrator try drawing the CPAPFit pillow - maybe take a photo using it, and draw from that image? See if you can show how the Fit cradles head, neck, shoulders, and provides a 'nook' for a mask.

Lytepole - I have both a contoured foam pillow and the CPAPFit pillow. The contoured pillow does not provide the alignment that SleepGuy's illustration is showing. The contoured foam pillow cannot be lowered toward a mattress with the depth that the CPAPFit pillow can. Think of it this way.. a contoured foam or memory foam pillow is designed to stay in the same shape you buy it in. When you lay your head on one of these types of pillows, the pillow will only lower to a certain point, and is not able to be shaped to lower any further. These types of pillows do want to 'spring back' because the material used in them promotes keeping the pillow in its specific shape.

With a buckwheat hull fill in the CPAPFit pillow, you can easily change the shape of it to fit your head (or any other part of your body, for that matter), even to the point of your head laying on the mattress, with your neck being supported to open/ extend your airway. This pillow isn't designed to stay in one shape; its designed so that the user can change the shape to fit their needs.

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Re: CPAPfit Pillow Illustrations - feeback wanted

Post by SleepGuy » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:04 pm

Wow, great feedback everybody. I will take some time next week to go through this in more detail....

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Post by LSAT » Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:45 am

Looks interesting, but I won't give up your buckwheat pillow.

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Post by SleepGuy » Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:54 am

LSAT wrote:Looks interesting, but I won't give up your buckwheat pillow.
LSAT, these illustrations are supposed to show the buckwheat hull pillow in both side and back sleeping mode.....

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Post by Tatooed Lady » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:30 pm

What about face/stomach sleepers? I assume the pillow innards are squishy enough to accommodate those of us who insist on trying to sleep facing downward? I'm actually in the market for a couple new pillows. Tired of the other half whining how our bed sucks...Our pillows such (they kinda do), he is sore and refuses to blame age and overwork...I wouldn't mind better sleep as well.

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Post by SleepGuy » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:53 pm

Tatooed Lady wrote:What about face/stomach sleepers? I assume the pillow innards are squishy enough to accommodate those of us who insist on trying to sleep facing downward? I'm actually in the market for a couple new pillows. Tired of the other half whining how our bed sucks...Our pillows such (they kinda do), he is sore and refuses to blame age and overwork...I wouldn't mind better sleep as well.
Yes, this will actually work well for stomach sleeping though that's an awkward and unrecommended way to sleep. You can make the pillow very low profile and it's not "fluffy" so it will be whatever shape / thickness you want / need. I didn't do a stomach illustration because that's not really a recommended sleeping position and I don't want to see a product liability claim for telling cpap people to sleep on their stomach.

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Post by M'ohms » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:08 am

SleepyEyes21 wrote:
SleepGuy wrote:
lytepole wrote:
...As for the side sleeper illustration - the pillow pictured looks exactly like the shape of a contoured foam pillow. Potential buyers might be confused by this, and think a less expensive contoured pillow would work just the same. I would suggest your illustrator try drawing the CPAPFit pillow - maybe take a photo using it, and draw from that image? See if you can show how the Fit cradles head, neck, shoulders, and provides a 'nook' for a mask.
And from Aifib:

...side position:
Please extend the dotted (body) line through the pillow to indicate how the pillow accommodates the neck...

I agree with both of these suggestions. In your illustration, the drawing of lower shoulder starts at the surface of the mattress (under the pillow, but not at the pillow's edge). The shoulder can't occupy the same space as the mattress and can't suddenly appear out of the pillow. Connecting the lower part of the head/neck/shoulder will help a lot. Also, I agree that the profile of the illustration more closely resembles a typical contour pillow, which I know yours is not!

P.S. I've put your pillow on my Christmas list!

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:08 am

englandsf wrote:Like LSAT I wonder WHY you're working on getting people to sleep on their backs? Unless there is a medical reason to NOT side sleep that will only make OSA worse for 99% of people.
Lots of CPAPers, probably the majority, sleep on their backs, some by preference, others forced by various issues.

We are talking about CPAPers in this forum. If you are properly titrated for backsleeping, I am certain this pillow will help. If using an auto pressure range, you might find it runs at lower average and max pressures.

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Post by woody74 » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:43 am

How do I get one of these pillows in Australia?????? REALLY NEED ONE

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:52 am

woody74 wrote:How do I get one of these pillows in Australia?????? REALLY NEED ONE

This pillow is not so unique that I would go to the trouble of having one shipped from U.S. to Australia.

Just go to your usual browsing site for shopping in Australia and use search term, "cervical pillow".

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Post by jstill » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:26 am

I bought one of these pillow and have been using it for about 3 weeks. All i can say..AMAZING! it lets me sleep on my side all night, without my nasal mask moving, and shooting ain in my face. IT does take a few days to get use to sleeping with, id say..its like sleeping on a big bean bag, maybe could use a little more foam, but i ended up buying one for my father whol also has OSA for christmas. In all, i give it a 5 star rating

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:43 pm

jstill wrote:I bought one of these pillow and have been using it for about 3 weeks. All i can say..AMAZING! it lets me sleep on my side all night, without my nasal mask moving, and shooting ain in my face. IT does take a few days to get use to sleeping with, id say..its like sleeping on a big bean bag, maybe could use a little more foam, but i ended up buying one for my father whol also has OSA for christmas. In all, i give it a 5 star rating
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Post by Stormynights » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:07 pm

I love my pillow. I was able to adjust it to fit me perfectly.

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Post by SleepGuy » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:17 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
jstill wrote:I bought one of these pillow and have been using it for about 3 weeks. All i can say..AMAZING! it lets me sleep on my side all night, without my nasal mask moving, and shooting ain in my face. IT does take a few days to get use to sleeping with, id say..its like sleeping on a big bean bag, maybe could use a little more foam, but i ended up buying one for my father whol also has OSA for christmas. In all, i give it a 5 star rating
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