S9 change

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S9 change

Post by carbonman » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:41 am

....so after 15,660 hrs, my trusty S8Autoset has been replaced w/ the S9auto.
Second night of use, random thoughts/questions:
Setup: Auto 12.4-15 cm

Certainly not as convenient to set up each night as the S8.....
but I will get over it.

Climateline hose:
I'm used to the Aussie heated hose. When it is warmed up, I can actually
feel that it is heated. Air actually feels warm.
I have the Climateline turned up to 85. The hose never does feel warm and
the air does not feel warm but is comfortable. Does this sound right?

AHI
The first night I have an AHI of .3....YIKES......2nd night...AHI .5.
With the S8, I have a consistent yearly AHI avg. of ~2.8.

Software
I like the new version of ResScan. Downloaded and installed w/out a hitch on
the new Win8.1 tablet. First downloads to the program from SD card, fast.
Lots of new information to ponder. Nice.
First data shows I have a couple of centrals. That's new.
From reading here, data stored is about the same as S8. Need to down load atleast
once every 7days to get detailed data. Correct?
If I get a new SD card, when I put it in the system, does it download all the machine stored data?

I know I'm late to the party, but such is change. You can only do so much at a time.
I have time for me now. Taking it back.
Thought/comments/suggestions appreciated.
"If your therapy is improving your health but you're not doing anything
to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
I said that.

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Re: S9 change

Post by Pugsy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:55 am

carbonman wrote:Climateline hose:
I'm used to the Aussie heated hose. When it is warmed up, I can actually
feel that it is heated. Air actually feels warm.
I have the Climateline turned up to 85. The hose never does feel warm and
the air does not feel warm but is comfortable. Does this sound right?
Yeah..it sounds about right depending on how cool your bedroom is to start with.
The Aussie hose had 2 choices...on full boar or off.
carbonman wrote:From reading here, data stored is about the same as S8. Need to down load atleast
once every 7days to get detailed data. Correct?
If I get a new SD card, when I put it in the system, does it download all the machine stored data?
Actually there is one really big difference with the S9....it doesn't store anything but the summary usage stuff on the machine so you have to have that SD card inserted in the S9 all night or all you get is summary data. You won't get any graphs because all the detail files and hi def files are written directly to the SD card.
And yes...should still download to computer once a week because the hi def data will get overwritten on the SD card after 7 nights and the other detailed files after 30 days. Summary usage and statistics will always be available though.

If you insert a new blank SD card into the S9...all that it will put on the SD card is what it has stored in its internal memory and that is summary usage stuff...numbers only for AHI, leak, pressure and hours of use.
What you see when you look at the statistics tab in ResScan. The stuff in the detailed tab with all the graphs...won't get it.

If I remember right the S8 stored a lot of stuff and all you didn't lose much if the smart card wasn't in the machine during the night....that's not the case anymore. That SD card must be in the S9 all night or you lose all the graphs and detailed stuff.

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Re: S9 change

Post by carbonman » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:58 am

Pugsy wrote:The Aussie hose had 2 choices...on full boar or off.
I kind of liked that. I like that intrinsic, physical evidence that something is, in fact, working.
How does the PRS1 operate?
Pugsy wrote:If I remember right the S8 stored a lot of stuff and all you didn't lose much if the smart card wasn't in the machine during the night....that's not the case anymore. That SD card must be in the S9 all night or you lose all the graphs and detailed stuff.
I will have to be a bit more attentive to this data downloads.
I was getting pretty lax, as the data always looked the same.....
which is a good thing.
I don't think I need a breath by breath break down.
Thanks! for the reply.
"If your therapy is improving your health but you're not doing anything
to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
I said that.

oldie

Re: S9 change

Post by oldie » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:49 am

Carbonman.....I'm no help with your S9...but it's good to see you posting again....miss your great photos and poems.

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Re: S9 change

Post by Pugsy » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:12 pm

carbonman wrote:I kind of liked that. I like that intrinsic, physical evidence that something is, in fact, working.
How does the PRS1 operate?
In terms of the heated hose? Pretty much like the ClimateLine...the most the PR S1 heated hose will heat the air is 16 degrees above room air temp. It's usually enough to prevent rain out even in my cold winter bedroom temps (50s usually).

You know there's nothing stopping you from using the Aussie hose if you want to...You can use the Aussie hose in the winter and the Climateline or regular hose in the summer. I use my Climateline year round...just adjust the temp...cooler for summer and warmest in the winter (my bedroom temp gets downright cold when it's cold here).

All you have to do to use the Aussie hose is change the hose diameter in the setup menu to 22 mm.

I have both brands available...the PR S1 60 series 760 machine with heated hose and the S9 with the Climateline...right now using the S9 Adapt with Climateline but last winter I used the 760 with the heated hose until I got the S9...so I know how both work.
I also have used the Hybernite heated hose in the past....works like the Aussie hose...only 2 choices ...on or off..no temp choices and yes..it was warmer overall than either the Climateline or PR S1 heated hose but I didn't really prefer it to be that much warmer...so the slightly cooler max temps of the ResMed or PR S1 heated hose wasn't a problem for me.

But if you really like the warmer air that the Aussie hose offers...you can sure use it with your new S9.

In terms of the data and having that SD card in the S9. You are like me...not a big deal if the graphs are missing but I have found that Murphy's Law always seems to pop up when I forget to put the SD card in...and most often it relates to leak data and I wish I had been able to see the leak line graph. I will see a max or 95% leak number that is elevated and I wonder...how long was I in big leak and can't really tell just from the statistics.

The PR S1 machine is superior to the S9 in terms of what it retains on its internal memory...we only lose flow rate graphs if the SD card is not in the machine. Flow rate is the breath by breath graph (called hi def in your S9).
And nothing gets overwritten on the PR S1 internal memory until 30 days...so lots of wiggle room if the SD card is lost or a person forgets to put it back into the machine.

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Re: S9 change

Post by carbonman » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:31 pm

oldie wrote:Carbonman.....I'm no help with your S9...but it's good to see you posting again....miss your great photos and poems.
Thank you! I'm coming back to life.
I did have some time this summer to take some pics.
I will post some. It's good to be coming back.
Pugsy wrote:You know there's nothing stopping you from using the Aussie hose if you want to...You can use the Aussie hose in the winter and the Climateline or regular hose in the summer. I use my Climateline year round...just adjust the temp...cooler for summer and warmest in the winter (my bedroom temp gets downright cold when it's cold here).All you have to do to use the Aussie hose is change the hose diameter in the setup menu to 22 mm.
Good info. I'm trying to move forward. If I just have to have that heat, I will go back to
the Aussie hose.
Pugsy wrote: You are like me...not a big deal if the graphs are missing .
A day or two of lost data does not a drama make.
....I'll just create more.
Thanks! You're a jewel.
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to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
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Re: S9 change

Post by Johnnyb01 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:31 am

carbonman wrote:....so after 15,660 hrs, my trusty S8Autoset has been replaced w/ the S9auto.
Second night of use, random thoughts/questions:
Setup: Auto 12.4-15 cm

Certainly not as convenient to set up each night as the S8.....
but I will get over it.

Climateline hose:
I'm used to the Aussie heated hose. When it is warmed up, I can actually
feel that it is heated. Air actually feels warm.
I have the Climateline turned up to 85. The hose never does feel warm and
the air does not feel warm but is comfortable. Does this sound right?

AHI
The first night I have an AHI of .3....YIKES......2nd night...AHI .5.
With the S8, I have a consistent yearly AHI avg. of ~2.8.

Software
I like the new version of ResScan. Downloaded and installed w/out a hitch on
the new Win8.1 tablet. First downloads to the program from SD card, fast.
Lots of new information to ponder. Nice.
First data shows I have a couple of centrals. That's new.
From reading here, data stored is about the same as S8. Need to down load atleast
once every 7days to get detailed data. Correct?
If I get a new SD card, when I put it in the system, does it download all the machine stored data?

I know I'm late to the party, but such is change. You can only do so much at a time.
I have time for me now. Taking it back.
Thought/comments/suggestions appreciated.
What do you have to set up each night? I fill the tub with water, if its gonna be a few minutes until I lay down I press and hold the multi function dial/botton on the right of the display for three seconds to warm up the water/hose (takes 5-10 minutes) then put on my mask and lay down. if I am going straight to bed I just skip the warmup, I notice little difference in warming up or not warming up personally.

My climateline hose is noticably warmer (not hot, just warmer) than the ambient temp in the room (65-66) once its been running a few minutes, not sure why yours hasn't been.

Thats good about your AHI isnt it? I have been struggling with allergy/sinus issues the last few nights and mine has jumped to between 12-18 it was staying below 5 (gonna try a slightly larger mask to see if this helps next week)

No input about the software as I havent worked with it yet

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Re: S9 change

Post by DeadlySleep » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:54 am

Pugsy wrote:The Aussie hose had 2 choices...on full boar or off.
Designed for people who hog the heat.

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Re: S9 change

Post by Krelvin » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:59 am

I never pre-warm the tank.

My steps are the same everytime I lie down.

Fill tank

Turn off all sounds (phone except ringer) and all alerts

Phone on charger

While still sitting up on the edge of the bed, put my mask on and adjust

Lie down and breath normally

Fall asleep.
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Re: S9 change

Post by Johnnyb01 » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:36 am

Krelvin wrote:I never pre-warm the tank.

My steps are the same everytime I lie down.

Fill tank

Turn off all sounds (phone except ringer) and all alerts

Phone on charger

While still sitting up on the edge of the bed, put my mask on and adjust

Lie down and breath normally

Fall asleep.
if I adjust while sitting up, I have to readjust once I lay down

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Re: S9 change

Post by carbonman » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:16 am

Johnnyb01 wrote: What do you have to set up each night?
Same setup, just a bit different than S8. Machine has to sit backwards in
night stand. For my OCD life, it is change.....gets better each night.


My climateline hose is noticably warmer (not hot, just warmer) than the ambient temp in the room (65-66) once its been running a few minutes, not sure why yours hasn't been.
I don't notice any change, but it is comfortable.


Thats good about your AHI isnt it?
Yes, that is a good thing. I am just not used to seeing those kinds
of numbers. Hard to believe. Last night, .1AHI.
"If your therapy is improving your health but you're not doing anything
to see or feel those changes, you'll never know what you're capable of."
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Re: S9 change

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:27 pm

DeadlySleep wrote:
Pugsy wrote:The Aussie hose had 2 choices...on full boar or off.
Designed for people who hog the heat.
Tee hee.

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Re: S9 change

Post by 70sSanO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:12 pm

carbonman wrote: AHI
The first night I have an AHI of .3....YIKES......2nd night...AHI .5.
With the S8, I have a consistent yearly AHI avg. of ~2.8.
It's funny I have an S9 and have an S8 that I want to use as a backup and potentially for trips.

My AHI on the S8 is significantly higher than the S9, as in 3 to 6 set at the same pressure. I swapped my slimline for a standard. I went back to the slimline and there was little difference.

I remember some threads on how each machine treats the identification of different events, but I figured the total would be close.

What is odd is that my sleep doc thinks my S9 is giving high numbers and they should actually be recorded lower. I can imagine the response if I showed him the S8 numbers.

John
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Central: 1.7
Obstructive: 0.3
Hypopnea: 0.5
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Re: S9 change

Post by zorki1c » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:27 pm

Krelvin wrote:I never pre-warm the tank.

My steps are the same everytime I lie down.

Fill tank

Turn off all sounds (phone except ringer) and all alerts

Phone on charger

While still sitting up on the edge of the bed, put my mask on and adjust

Lie down and breath normally

Fall asleep.
Like you I NEVER pre warm. I found that if I do the pre warmed air makes me feel like I am suffocating and I have to removed the mask. If I start cold and let it warm up while I am wearing rhe mask, no problem.

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Re: S9 change

Post by Krelvin » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:18 pm

I also use a low setting. I have heated hose and humidity settings turned on so I can adjust both. Heater hose is at 60F the lowest setting and humidity is now at 2.0.

Room temp lately is between 65F and 72F.

Dry climate here but I use less that 1/2 tank a night with about 7.5hrs a night avg.
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