S9 autoset nights above 4 hours?

Hello guys, I just had a quick question. So, it's been really hard to get used to this, and I still haven't! I can't sleep with it on at all. I've been taking it off at exactly 4 hours of use, yet it shows a lot of days below 4 hours! It currently shows 6/12. My real question is, if I stop it right at 4 hours, will it still count as a night below 4 hours? Does it need to be at least 4.1 or something? Thanks!

EDIT: Oh! And if possible, can anyone recommend a full face mask that has little or no headgear? My whole problem is that I can't get comfortable enough to sleep with straps on my lower head causing pressure and headaches! Thanks again!

H4X0R46 wrote:Hello guys, I just had a quick question. So, it's been really hard to get used to this, and I still haven't! I can't sleep with it on at all. I've been taking it off at exactly 4 hours of use, yet it shows a lot of days below 4 hours! It currently shows 6/12. My real question is, if I stop it right at 4 hours, will it still count as a night below 4 hours? Does it need to be at least 4.1 or something? Thanks!

EDIT: Oh! And if possible, can anyone recommend a full face mask that has little or no headgear? My whole problem is that I can't get comfortable enough to sleep with straps on my lower head causing pressure and headaches! Thanks again!

4.0 should be enough, but are you confirming 4.0 on the screen or by your clock? You might try the 4.1 to be extra sure, but if you are going by the clock, and not the machine, that could be the problem. Also, is there any chance that you sleep past noon? The day changes at noon for resmed machines, and that could be the problem if your sleep times sometimes go past noon, but not always. There is a way to fix that. I sleep past noon most days, so I reset the machine's clock so that it thinks that noon is at 3pm.

As for having trouble sleeping with the machine, we can help you with that. You have data on your machine. That will help to see what is going on.

With your mask, make sure it is not too tight. It is natural to tighten it, but works best when not tight. And it should not be tight enough to hurt. I don't think there is a way to attach a full face mask without some type of headgear across the lower section of the head. There are some nasal masks with very little headgear or ear loops, but you would need to be able to sleep without breathing through your mouth. There is also the opposite, an oral mask that can go without headgear, but you would need to block your nose or learn to not breathe through your nose.

It's 4.0 on the machine, yet somehow still shows below 4 hours? Idk, but it's strange to me! And what would you recommend with the face mask? Because it gives me a headache in an hour or less as soon as I lay down with it. :/

I have heard of people needing to get 4 hours plus to get it to kick over and show in the days used over 4 hours.
Someone else a while back mentioned that they didn't meet compliance with using it exactly 4 hours.
Like 4 hours and 15 minutes. It has to be therapy hours and also if there are big leaks then the machine can run into trouble sensing if there is back pressure from your breathing. So it might miss some time used if large leaks are present. So if you had a big leak for 2 minutes and it couldn't sense that you were attached to the machine then it would register as less than 4 hours if you turned it off exactly at 4 hours.
Just a possible reason why it might be reporting less than 4 hours when you are turning it off at exactly the 4 hour mark.

Can't say for sure, but........
The "meters" on these machines record the time with tenths of hours. A tenth is 6 minutes. It's possible that it could round up or round down for one purpose or the other. For it to round UP, it would have to record something over 3 minutes. If it rounds DOWN, it could be slightly less but still round up for the other purpose. When I look at my meter, it can say that I got a rounded hour number........but, when I download my card, it can show that I was a few minutes short of the meter hours.

My recommendation is........Get more sleep. At least be sure to see that the meter goes to a tenth or more over the minimum of 4 hours. When I started therapy, I was in the middle of some projects at work and some nights 4 hours was about what I was getting.......but I made sure I got just a little bit more for compliance purposes. Six minutes isn't all that long to lay there with the mask on and the machine running.
Maybe keep a Jr. Legal pad next to the machine and record the ending meter readings each morning. That's what I do, but it's actually because I've had some machines whose blower meters and user meters seem to do strange things over time and I document those little quirks. Example: With a couple of my machines, the user meters actually gain time and will show more usage time than the blower meters.......and that ain't "normal". For all intents and purposes, the blower hours should always be more than the user hours.


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Wow! I wish I knew that! Haha because I'm literally noticing that I have a lot of nights under 4 hours now, and that's not good. Alright! Thanks guys!

H4X0R46 wrote: EDIT: Oh! And if possible, can anyone recommend a full face mask that has little or no headgear? My whole problem is that I can't get comfortable enough to sleep with straps on my lower head causing pressure and headaches! Thanks again!

Your straps may actually be too tight. There is sort of a sweet spot that you have to hit for being not too tight but not too loose. I've seen posts about adjusting that I'll look for, unless somebody beats me to it.

The F10 mask that you are using has less headgear than most FF masks out there. Most of them have a strap around the top of the head that connect at your forehead to a platic arm that comes from the bridge of your nose. I don't know of another FF that doesn't have that dopey forehead and strap. I started on Quattro Air 6 months ago, and though I liked it fine, and it was comfortable, when the F10 came out a short while ago I got it because it doesn't have the strap going over my forehead... and I really like the freedom from that strap. F10 is really just an updated version of the Air, as it uses the same cushion.

Possibly you have the headache from pulling the straps too tight. If they are either too tight or too loose you will have more leaks and not be as comfortable. You should be able to put a finger or two between your head and the strap if it is adjusted correctly. I don't understand how the lower straps give you a headache; jaw pain perhaps, but a headache?