Software with F&P icon ?

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
Larry C
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:20 am
Location: Long Island NY

Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Larry C » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:12 am

Need to take charge of my progress. Using equipment just over 1 month now and don't know what's going on. My machine came without smartcard, it was recently sent to me for compliance only to install data and return to dme.
Do I have options here? Or should I start from scratch with new Dr. , Dme , etc.
I'm not satisfied with my results.
Thanks

User avatar
Pugsy
Posts: 64017
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Missouri, USA

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:30 am

Have you mailed the smart card back yet? If not use it to get SleepyHead software up and running and let's see what the machine stores and writes to the Smart card.
If not mailed back yet....use it in the machine overnight and let's see what the data shows is going on.

Your machine is a full efficacy data machine and before going down the road of a new dr, dme or machine...how about evaluating what you have available and see what can be done to maybe improve things.

I have never seen the Icon smart card.....where can someone buy one to keep in the machine full time?

Do you have the provider/clinical manual for your machine that shows how to get the data that is available off the LCD screen?

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Mask Bleep Eclipse https://bleepsleep.com/the-eclipse/
I may have to RISE but I refuse to SHINE.

If you want to try the Eclipse mask and want a special promo code to get a little off the price...send me a private message.

Larry C
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:20 am
Location: Long Island NY

Re: Software with F&P icon

Post by Larry C » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:54 am

Thanks, my smart card has been sent back already. I wasn't thinking.
I have user manual only for machine, it's hard to find full manual. Machine has to be programmed to view data on screen and it's not, other than compliance.
When the equipment was delivered the respiratory tech was looking for card then stated it will probably be mailed.
Does anyone know if it's available if dme refuses to send me one. Very uncomfortable with situation.
Thanks again

User avatar
Pugsy
Posts: 64017
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Missouri, USA

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:02 am

Check your PMs. I can help with the provider manual which should help out a lot.
I have never seen a Icon smart card so I don't know what it looks like or where to find one if it has to be a special card.
The other brands use a regular SD card which makes it much easier.

I will keep looking to see if I can find a source for the Icon smart card. Will let you know if I find one.

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Mask Bleep Eclipse https://bleepsleep.com/the-eclipse/
I may have to RISE but I refuse to SHINE.

If you want to try the Eclipse mask and want a special promo code to get a little off the price...send me a private message.

User avatar
Pugsy
Posts: 64017
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Missouri, USA

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:10 am


_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Mask Bleep Eclipse https://bleepsleep.com/the-eclipse/
I may have to RISE but I refuse to SHINE.

If you want to try the Eclipse mask and want a special promo code to get a little off the price...send me a private message.

thecodemonk
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by thecodemonk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:15 am

I have that machine and that looks like the card.

If the machine dumps the data from internal memory to the card, they might have to be careful doing it with a card they purchase. If the DME sends a card and he puts it in and the machine doesn't have anything in it's internal memory after dumping it to his card, it may cause an issue with compliance. I have no idea if it does that or not, but after working in IT for the last 20 years, it would not surprise me if that's the case.

It seems to me that the practice of mailing cards is a little archaic. My DME has me stick the card in my computer and run their InfoUSB app that uploads the data to them.

User avatar
Pugsy
Posts: 64017
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Missouri, USA

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Pugsy » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:20 am

thecodemonk wrote:If the machine dumps the data from internal memory to the card, they might have to be careful doing it with a card they purchase. If the DME sends a card and he puts it in and the machine doesn't have anything in it's internal memory after dumping it to his card, it may cause an issue with compliance. I have no idea if it does that or not,
It doesn't do that. The data stored on the internal memory is normally available for 1 year and even after a year only the oldest data gets written over.
Someone could use a dozen different smart cards for downloads and the data on the internal memory will still be there for each and every smart card.
So no way to mess up any later compliance requirements.

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Mask Bleep Eclipse https://bleepsleep.com/the-eclipse/
I may have to RISE but I refuse to SHINE.

If you want to try the Eclipse mask and want a special promo code to get a little off the price...send me a private message.

thecodemonk
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by thecodemonk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:21 am

Pugsy wrote:It doesn't do that. The data stored on the internal memory is normally available for 1 year and even after a year only the oldest data gets written over.
Someone could use a dozen different smart cards for downloads and the data on the internal memory will still be there for each and every smart card.
So no way to mess up any later compliance requirements.
Very good to know, thanks!

Larry C
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:20 am
Location: Long Island NY

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Larry C » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:46 am

Thanks. I'll do my home work and keep you posted.

JDS74
Posts: 3397
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm
Location: South Carolina

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by JDS74 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:38 am

That looks just like a plain USB memory stick. Have you tried using one if those to see if the machine writes to it?
The user manual describes using the InfoUSB app to initialize the card. That sounds as if some special formatting is happening .

_________________
Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.

User avatar
CNTRL
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:53 pm
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by CNTRL » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:33 am

Yes the f&p icon utilises a usb memory stick but it's a special design made to fit so it's proprietary.
And I concur the data is actually held in the machine and copied to the usb so the data is not lost with no usb or when a new usb is inserted.
I also agree with the others sleepyhead is the best tool to analyse the data the latest version has some great support!
Really just backing up what the others have said the only difference is I use an icon auto. (Which I love)

_________________
Mask: DreamWear Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead software, inline UPS 9hours+
The challenge... Uninterrupted sleep every night

Larry C
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:20 am
Location: Long Island NY

Re: Software with F&P icon ?

Post by Larry C » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:42 am

Thanks to all. I just received a full report of my first months data. I'll see if I can post it. F&P has their own software.