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Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:25 pm
by Janknitz
Do you use Mayo in your tuna salad and such?
I'm not a big mayo person, but mayo is OK. It's usually made with Omega 6 oils I'm trying to avoid, so I need to make my own--there's all sorts of recipes, I just use olive oil in the mayo. I also love mashed avocado instead of mayo in things like fish salad. YUM! You can use sour cream or cream cheese too. When I do use mayo, I like to add a touch of curry powder, it makes it taste better to me.

Blackspinner, anything you can get your parents to eat at this time is good, so don't worry about the soy! Elderly people lose a lot of their taste sensations except for sweet, so they'll often eat sweet stuff to the exclusion of other things. You can make th eprotein shakes and freeze them in an ice cream maker if you have one--they may really enjoy protien ice cream. Or if you're really ambitious, make REAL custard (from eggs and cream!) and freeze it.

The least expensive good tasting whey powder I've found is Body Fortress at Walmart. Well, not really, you can get a HUGE bag of Muscle Milk whey protein powder (6 lbs) at Costco for about $6 per pound--it's got too much Splenda and some kind of vanilla flavoring in it. At first I was OK with it, but now it tastes and smells VILE to me.

A lot of people say protein powder is OK, including paleo people who usually eschew processed stuff. But I'm trying to get away from it--it was a quick and easy way to have a meal at work, but I think it's not so good for me. I've read Cate Shanahan's book, Deep Nutrition, and she doesn't like the concentrated amino acids in protein powders--she believes your protein should come from whole food sources. So far I haven't been brave enough to add raw eggs to my smoothies. I get my eggs from a fresh, trusted source (a local farm and I’ve even visited the “pastured” chickens), but I’m a little wary of trying that. Nut butters give a little protein, and there’s some in the almond milk and yogurt, too. And I’m trying to eat real food at lunch at work (that’s challenging for me).

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:37 pm
by BlackSpinner
Janknitz wrote:.

So far I haven't been brave enough to add raw eggs to my smoothies. I get my eggs from a fresh, trusted source (a local farm and I’ve even visited the “pastured” chickens), but I’m a little wary of trying that. Nut butters give a little protein, and there’s some in the almond milk and yogurt, too. And I’m trying to eat real food at lunch at work (that’s challenging for me).
Oh don't be afraid of the raw (safe) egg in your smoothie. I grew up on that. It is not slimy at all. We all hated breakfast and an egg/yogurt smoothie with vanilla sugar was mom's solution.

I have to watch it with the cream as we have lactose issues so I mostly make pudding with semolina and ground almond with 1% milk or I make rice pudding and serve it with fresh fruit.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:43 pm
by portiemom
Like BlackSpinner, I too grew up on raw egg in Chocolate Milk, it was a quick breakfast that my mom use to fix us before going to Summer Camp in the mornings. We were fed a hot lunch at Camp at noon so we never wanted breakfast and that was the way back then, you must have an egg for breakfast one way or another.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:49 pm
by BlackSpinner
portiemom wrote:Like BlackSpinner, I too grew up on raw egg in Chocolate Milk, it was a quick breakfast that my mom use to fix us before going to Summer Camp in the mornings. We were fed a hot lunch at Camp at noon so we never wanted breakfast and that was the way back then, you must have an egg for breakfast one way or another.
Oooh chocolate milk smoothie - you got the deluxe version!

You know it is hard to get all excited about these smoothie things when you have been drinking them since the 50's!

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:25 am
by portiemom
Oh I know that BlackSpinner, but my friends are all about those fruit smoothies and I'm sure the carbs are over the top in them. I would like to have a bit of dessert type stuff for after a meal sometimes and just beginning this LC/HF I have to play alot of mind games as I've had those bad "you must have grain, carbs, to be healthy" hard to get that rot out of my head. I feel better than ever, but eating the fat, and meat is a bit hard.
Hope you and your family are thriving!

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:24 am
by Janknitz
Portie, dessert ideas:
1 square of chocolate that's at least 72% cacao eat alone (great with a cup of coffee!) or use as below.
Whip some cream (2 tbsps) and drizzle it with the melted chocolate
Whipped cream (whip your own, no sugar needed) with 1/4 cup fresh or frozen berries
I don't like it (fake food!) but you can whisk some sugar-free jello powder in whipped cream
Chia seed pudding: combine 1/3 cup unsweetened almond milk( chocolate or vanilla) with some cinnamon and a tsp of chia seeds. I use 1tsp erithrytol sweetener. Allow this to rest for 15 minutes so the chia seeds can swell up and thicken the pudding.
I melt some chocolate in homemade coconut butter when I really want a decadent treat.
And there's always coconut bark . . .

I usually plan my dessert before dinner, when I'm hungry. But I don't make it until after I've eaten AND I check in with myself to see if I'm really hungry. Most of the time I'm satisfied after dinner and if I leave the kitchen and get involved in other things I don't ever come back for dessert. So I really only have a treat once or twice a week. But knowing I may if I want helps me not feel deprived. Sometimes I have the coconut bark just to increase my calorie and fat intake (I lose best when I'm eating sufficient calories and fat). Gee, suffering--NOT!

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:44 pm
by portiemom
OMG Janknitz my taste buds are popping now! I will have to make a run to the health food store for some Chia seeds, I guess that's where I would find them. Also homemade coconut butter, is their a recipe sight for all these good sounding things? I sure don't expect you to have to supply me with all the wonderful things you make. But it sure is appreciated. Today I went to the movies with a few friends, and when they were paying big bucks for rancid smelling buttered popcorn, stale looking tortilla chips with something that was suppose to be cheddar cheddar cheese drizzled on, but looked more like cheese encased in cellophane, I was munching on some peanuts between bites of cheese (real), and some hummus. Delicious!!!!! and much better smelling too!

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:12 am
by Janknitz
There are tons of low carb and Paleo recipe sites. Start googling!

Coconut butter is outrageously expensive to buy--about $10 for a small jar. It's very inexpensive to make--about $1.50 for the same amount, but a bit of a pita. You basically grind dried, unsweetened coconut into a smooth paste in a food processor, scraping the sides down periodically. Adding 1 or 2 teaspoons of coconut oil helps it process faster. It's a very rich nut like butter.

Best price on coconut oil is trader joes--$5.99 for a 16 oz jar and the competition has spurred Whole foods to sell the same sized jar for $6.99 (used to be $12). I buy the dry coconut in bulk at WF.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:51 pm
by VVV

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:08 pm
by Lizistired
I think that's pretty gross, but probably not any worse than the thick doughy crust americans seem to love.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:09 pm
by ems
VVV wrote:Does this get your approval?

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Yum! It gets mine.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:11 pm
by ems
Kidding... that actually looks gross! However, the free mustard drizzle looks interesting.

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:45 am
by SleepingUgly
OK, I bought some coconut milk at Trader Joe's. Now what do I do with it?!

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:05 pm
by Janknitz
Well, I ususually don't buy it at TJ's because they only carry a "light" version. Lower fat = more carbs. Whole Foods has a 365 brand of full fat coconut milk which is comparably priced. What I do buy at TJ's is their coconut oil--best price around.

The full fat versions are nice and thick--when you shake the can it won't slosh very much--very creamy consistency. You have to open the entire lid and mix well, otherwise all the good stuff clings to the sides of the can.

I love full fat coconut milk in smoothies and I slather it on hot "flaxmeal" cereal. I use it to make chia seed pudding (add some chia seeds and flavors like cinnamon and let it sit until the chia "gels"). It's great to use in cooking where you would otherwise use milk or cream. You could flavor the coconut milk with all sorts of yummy stuff for dessert--cocoa powder and sweetener, for example (I haven't done that, but I bet it's good).

Re: OT:Good Calories, Bad Calories....

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:59 am
by SleepingUgly
Are nuts fattening?