[deltadave]

This thread should fall off the page until something relevant is posted.

OK, I got one for you...

A search of the other site presently under discussion (not that one-- the "Second" one) for "hypoglossal nerve stimuation" yields 3 results, while a search for "scoring" yields 3568 results.

[deltadave]

Can you spell this one out a little bit more for me? I think I get where you're going with this, but I'm not entirely sure I'm following along. Fascinating thread though.

Hey, this is that thread!!

In a very small, but interesting study in Laryngoscope 112 February 2002, response to HGNS was measured in 14 subjects. The first 3 are females:

While it may be tempting to conclude that females exhibit a more favorable response to HGNS than men, of additional interest are the non-responders.

However, it was noted:

Optimal placement of the stimulating electrode is essential to achieve anterior tongue displacement because stimulation of immediately adjacent muscles, including the hyoglossus and styloglossus muscles, can produce retrusion of the tongue into the hypopharyngeal airway. Three of our subjects demonstrated modest decreases in the hypopharyngeal airway during stimulation. These findings may represent displacement of the electrode during the study into the mylohyoid or geniohyoid muscle, which lie superficial to the genioglossus muscle, using our percutaneous approach (see Fig. 1). Electrical stimulation of the mylohyoid, which forms the floor of the oral cavity, could elevate and posteriorly displace the tongue. While the geniohyoid muscle exerts an anterior vector of force on the hyoid bone and caudal tongue base,in a few subjects we have noted posterior tilting of the epiglottis during stimulation. Thus, displacement of the electrode into either of these muscles could have resulted in reduction of the hypopharyngeal airway measurement.

[deltadave]

BTW, the recent Apnex study by Eastwood had exclusion criteria. Among other things:

• >5% central or mixed apneic events combined as a proportion of total apnea and hypopnea events
• Untreated or incompletely treated sleep disorders other than OSA

This certainly suggests that insomniacs will not qualify.

[chunkyfrog]

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Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

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[Goofproof]

At least the Snakes were well fed. Jim

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[deltadave]

This just in:
Corky was a lab rat; and after the experiment, he met the fate many test animals do.
Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

Fortunately, there was a photograph taken when the the HGNS device was "powered up":

[NightMonkey]

This just in: Corky was a lab rat; and after the experiment, he met the fate many test animals do.
Brave little corky.
He will be remembered.

Careful. I understand Corky's agent also supplies high school biology labs.

[Starlette]

ChunkyFrog & DeltaDave,

*chuckling* You're bad. Very, very bad!
Karma may not be on your side.

*whispers in their ears* However, I do believe you're both right, hehe

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[CorkyD]

Got my remote today!! Everything went great and I can't wait to sleep tonight!!

[debtheveg]

That's exciting, Corky! Do let us know how it goes. I'm back from my trip to Sydney yesterday for a complete medical, about twelve pages of questions and an overnight sleep study. Should hear by next Tuesday if I progress on to the endoscopy stage.

[debtheveg]

Hi Corky, you've had a few nights since you last posted. How has it been going?

[chunkyfrog]

Luckily, the animal rights people have come up with computerized virtual dissection programs.
More of my kind can go free. Not so for the rodents--they're still considered vermin.

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[BlackSpinner]

Luckily, the animal rights people have come up with computerized virtual dissection programs.
More of my kind can go free. Not so for the rodents--they're still considered vermin.

"It's dead, Jim"

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[deltadave]

Not so for the rodents--they're still considered vermin.

Yeah, well there was that Bubonic Plague thing.

I mean, killing off 100 million people certainly gives one "street cred".

[deltadave]

Luckily, the animal rights people have come up with computerized virtual dissection programs.
More of my kind can go free. Not so for the rodents--they're still considered vermin.

"It's dead, Jim"

I'm Just a Doctor!