Will I Ever Sleep Through The Night?

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Sleeping With The Enemy
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Will I Ever Sleep Through The Night?

Post by Sleeping With The Enemy » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:56 pm

I have been on therapy since January 24th. I am really starting to wonder if I will ever be able to sleep through the night. I am still waking up 3 or so times a night.

Any suggestions? Usually I get up go to the bathroom and walk around the house. I have tried Trazadone but not really seeing that it helps a whole lot.

Would this be considered a habit or what?

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Re: Will I Ever Sleep Through The Night?

Post by gailzee » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:50 pm

Have you tried low dose Ambien. I have difficulty falling asleep (hours) before apap and since apap, just as bad if not worse. I usually have to sit up straight, and when I feel drowsy lie down. Problem is if I take an ambien 1 hr prior to going to bed, then I feel sleepy, but am not sleepy once I lie down wit the swift on, chin strap what not. I am getting a tad better and have weaned myself down and off the ambien as I do not like the idea of being addicted but to get past the hurdle of not falling asleep or at least staying asleep for a good 4-5 hours, I am still tired. But the interesting thing I have noticed as a positive even with taking a sleep aide, is that I am waking up at a more reasonable hour 7:30-8 AM than the 9=10 am and drugged up feeling I was before apap. So I think my system is getting into a normal rhythm albeit slower than I'd like.

I would just give anything to strap on my swifty mask, lie down, fall asleep in 10 mins. and stay asleep for 7-8 hours, I have never been this lucky since I was a child.

But I am noticing a different pattern to my sleep, esp. toward morning so maybe the apap is helping with that problem as well.

Hope you get some relief.

A new sleep med is coming out in Spring, LUNESTRA. It is not out yet, at least that is what my druggist told me yesterday. It is supposed to have less ''shelf life'' of hours slept than ambien. Ambien I do find, if you do NOT sleep those 7-8 hours as they recommend and suggest, I for one feel groggy. My husband cannot take ambien, he gets a foggy brain the next day, and if he gets up during the night, he does not remember. SO it must alter a sleep state in some way.

Sleep apnea is sort of misnamed, should be FOR ME, NON SLEEP apnea and what happens when I finally do sleep.

It's something else to deal with. You are NOT alone believe me.
Sleeping With The Enemy wrote:I have been on therapy since January 24th. I am really starting to wonder if I will ever be able to sleep through the night. I am still waking up 3 or so times a night.

Any suggestions? Usually I get up go to the bathroom and walk around the house. I have tried Trazadone but not really seeing that it helps a whole lot.

Would this be considered a habit or what?

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Post by tater pie » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:00 pm

I've beenon cpap since November 17 of last year and still do not sleep through the night. My doctor told me that after age 50 (I turned 54 on Tuesday) that I probably will never sleep straight through the night again. On the positive side, I am able to go to sleep at about 11:00 p.m. and wake up once around 3:30 a.m., go to the bathroom and then go back to sleep until 6:30 or 7:00 a.m. That is much better than I used to be. I could always go to sleep pretty quickly. On my initial sleep study, I fell asleep in 10 minutes with all of that garb on. However, I would wake up around 2:30 a.m. and stay awake for 2 or 3 hours and then doze a little until the sun came up so I guess that's improvement. I also would just love to go to bed and fall asleep and not wake up until morning. It's been years since I've done that also. All of you gots that got sleep aids when you got your c-pap are lucky. My doctor didn't give me anything and the first 3 weeks were sheer torment. I still get really sleepy in the afternoons and have to have a 15 or 20 minute nap. I guess some improvement is better than nothing. I hope you do get to sleep through the night soon!!!!

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Post by chrisp » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:10 pm

Try eating a low carb breakfast, Exercise for 30 minutes then eat a small lunch. A lite dinner before 6pm and make a routine of doing the same thing before bed.

Soon you will have your body trained to sleep at the appropriate time.

http://www.thesleepsite.com/hygiene.html

http://www.umm.edu/sleep/sleep_hyg.html

Sweet dreams,

Chris

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Post by nodding off » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:45 pm

Depending on your bladder and your level of stress, you may sleep the night. For my first few years on the hose I also woke up several times a night and had trouble sleeping. Now I go to bed at around 11, sleep like a rock until about 3-3:15, get up, go to the bathroom, and sleep like a rock again until 6 or 6:30 when I start my day. CPAP just becomes so much a part of your life it simply isn't an issue for you any more, as long as things are going well. One thing I finally learned is to NEVER take the mask off in the middle of the night. I could find so many reasons to not put it back on, and your mask does you no good hanging on the bedpost, nor are you getting used to having it on the whole night through. Also, get exercise and try not to nap during the day.

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Post by Hugh Jass » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:19 am

I had/have the same problem.

I would consider this to be what I call anticipatory sleep anxiety. I've slowly been getting a handle on this problem, which unfortunately is one of those things that is all in my head.

I've learned that the anxiety caused by the uncertainty of whether or not I'm going to sleep well is what is actully contributing to the sleep problem.

So many people say, "If I could only sleep through the night without waking up, I would feel better".

I would love to go to bed, sleep like a rock for 8 hours and wake up feelilng like a million dollars.

The truth of the matter is that many people wake up several times a night and feel fine during the day, so the waking up often is not necessarily the demon we are trying to fight. I myself still wake up 3-4 times a night.

However, I personally don't care anymore whether or not I wake up even 7 or 8 times a night. The real goal is to feel better during the day, which is possible even with multiple awakenings.

If I don't sleep well one night, it doesn't mean I won't sleep well the next. If I don't sleep at all, work will be difficult but I can manage. Not sleeping at all for a night or two won't kill me (although it's no fun...)

By reducing this sleep anxiety, you may find that your sleep will start to improve.

I would also suggest trying to maintain a positive attitute and look for any changes, however small they may seem. Even baby steps will get you to your destination.

I'm still exhausted during the day and the brain fog often feels as thick as cement, but I don't go to the can 6 times a night anymore; I don't wake up in a cold sweat with a pounding heart; I fall back a sleep fairly quick; I moved back into my own bed after sleeping in a seperate room for two years; sometimes I get a short burst of energy during the day which I haven't had in a long time; my attitude is changing to be more positive, etc.

Even though I want to feel more rested during the day and after 3 months of CPAP therapy this hasn't happened yet, I am thankful for the little changes that give me hope better things are yet to come.

Hang in there and be patient.
Trying is the first step towards failure.