Waking up every hour and a half.

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by Pugsy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:02 pm

The machine is only recording what slips past the defenses...not what it fought.
So the minimal AHI means the machine didn't let many events slip past the defenses. We have no idea how many it prevented except your sleep study without cpap showed 66 events per hour.
If you don't use the machine you go back to 66 events per hour and it's highly doubtful that you don't have any apnea events on your side.

Severity of OSA has zero relation to pressures needed. I know people with AHI of 100 and they only need a pressure of 5 to prevent pretty much all those 100 per hour events and I know people with AHI of 10 that might need 20 cm pressure.
Count your blessings that your OSA only requires a relatively low pressure to get the job done.

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by nicholasjh1 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:13 am

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:02 pm
The machine is only recording what slips past the defenses...not what it fought.
So the minimal AHI means the machine didn't let many events slip past the defenses. We have no idea how many it prevented except your sleep study without cpap showed 66 events per hour.
If you don't use the machine you go back to 66 events per hour and it's highly doubtful that you don't have any apnea events on your side.

Severity of OSA has zero relation to pressures needed. I know people with AHI of 100 and they only need a pressure of 5 to prevent pretty much all those 100 per hour events and I know people with AHI of 10 that might need 20 cm pressure.
Count your blessings that your OSA only requires a relatively low pressure to get the job done.
agreed. I briefly entertained the fantasy that sleeping on my side would eliminate them, but I forgot my mask one night when I slept at my girlfriend's, the next day dark circles were back under my eyes again.
Instead of Sleep apnea it should be called "Sleep deprivation, starving of oxygen, being poisoned by high CO2 levels, damaging the body and brain while it's supposed to be healing so that you constantly get worse and can never get healthy Apnea"

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by David40 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:04 pm

Thanks for the input,
I guess I am still in denial and looking for excuses to not use the cpap machine for the rest of my life. However, I have realized that I have to. I am fortunate to have acclimated to the therapy and the pressure setting of 6 is very easy to tolerate and from the sleep reports the treatment is going great with low AHI, however I still some symptoms that are still present.

I am feeling energetic physically, but mentally, my mind does not feel rested when I wake up and I get mentally fatigued easily. I dont know what is the cause of that. I seem to start dreaming as soon as i fall asleep and do so continously throughout the night. When I wake up in the morning my mind feels like it has been working all night instead of resting. Occasionally, the nights that I dont dream as much, I wake up mentally and physically rested.

I dont have much stress in my life and eat healthy as possible so I cant figure out why I have so much dreaming for the past 6 months before cpap use and now with cpap use. I have quit smoking the last two weeks and that is the Only bad habit I had started about 6 months ago. So maybe it could the nicotine withdrawal, but I dream wven when I was smoking. I am kinda lost as to what else to do, any ideas as to what could be going on?

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by Pugsy » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:11 pm

We can dream in any sleep stage. Doesn't have to be REM.
For us to remember dreams we need to wake during the dream or immediately afterwards so that we can form a memory of the dream.
If you are remembering lots of dreams...then you are waking often for some reason or other and those wake ups mess with the normal sleep architecture so it is possible that you aren't getting the needed progression through the sleep stages and the normal % of each stage.
When sleep architecture gets messed up we don't feel so good.

Do you take any medications of any kind for any reason? Even OTC? If so, what?

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by David40 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:53 pm

Thanks for your reply Pugsy, I really appreciate all your help.

I am not taking any medication and no supplements either. The original reason I even had the sleep study was because I had the same complaint of dreaming so vividly and all night and feeling very mentally tired. When I got diagnosed with OSA I was relieved and thought that once I treat the OSA, the dreams or remembering them as much might subside. I have the OSA under control as you see my sleepyhead report, and the dreams are not as vivid but I am being honest that when I say as soon as i fall asleep I start dreaming. The dreams are not nightmares but are long movie like with full stories and i remember them all. I would not be complaining if it was not for the fact that eventhough i slept 7 hours last night but when i had to wake up and take my kid to school my mind felt so unrested like if i was up all night.

Now I dont want to self diagnose, and hate to come to conclusions based on rrsearching online but I think I might have some other sleep disorder as well. The only thing i think about is possible narcolepsy, but again i dont get sleep attacks during the day and my sleep study result showed actually 8% rem sleep and at the very end of the night so the symptoms dont match that. Plus i cant not take naps during the day no
Mattet what.

My sleep doctor’s office is so busy and so hard to make appointments and Rushes me out of the office and his entire practice is set up like a factory to get people with good insurance through sleep studies and out.

I am just so tired and no solutions i just want to somehow feel better and get back to work and support the family instead of feeling i am disabled. Sorry for venting.

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by lamar2217 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm

No problem in venting. The comments offered are spot on and excellent. It will take time for you to adapt to the benefits of CPAP. I have had a similar experience with fragmented sleep. 5 months into CPAP, I am making significant improvement. I trust that you will enjoy the same benefit.

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by mesenteria » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:18 pm

I just got off a cruise relocating the ship from the east coast through the Canal and on up to Vancouver, Canada. First 10 days were excellent, but then things began to unravel and I found myself awake much more than usual in the wee hours. Since disembarking, I have had several bad nights with up to three hours of waking time. Last two nights, with a cold, and with two caps of Nyquil, I slept soundly for over 8 hours.

I have mentioned several confounds in that narrative...travel, excitement, time zone changes, ship's motion increasing as we reached further north in the Pacific NW spring waters, disembarking, tax season, long grass back home, yada yada. We live busy, complicated, mutable, and tangled lives where we're always stamping out fires of one kind or another. The cold was yet another confound, and the medication I began to take after two particularly horrible nights another change. Oddly, I got two amazing nights back-to-back...suddenly.

I think Granny posts a list on sleep hygiene that is worthy of consideration. Sometimes it is the little things, like taking a single melatonin capsule for the first time in several months (I was getting around to that when I decided to take the Nyquil instead). Or, an extra hard day in the garden busting sod. We get a string of lousy sleeps and then a couple of good ones. I think that, as long as the nights are not hypoxic, we're in better shape than we would have been.

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Re: Waking up every hour and a half.

Post by David40 » Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 pm

The last couple of days I have had extreme runny nose and overall congestion that is hard to tolerate. It seems the constant air all night is irritating my nasal passage. My nose has been running like faucet all day. I am getting used to the therapy finally, but now I have encountered this new problem. I keep the equipment clean and last night started using the humidifier but today still i have constant runny nose. I am so miserable.

Any suggestions as I would hate stop using the therapy, I cant even think of not using the therapy, but at the same time cant go on with this nasal congestion.

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