Bloating

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Bloating

Post by Mamagreekx2 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:51 pm

Hello,


I have had a cpap for 8 months. My question is has anyone experienced any access blasting from it? I have been welding out on and off but religiously since Dec 1. I am always bloated and I know it's not from eating or drinking. Just curious to see if anyone else has this problem.

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Re: Bloating

Post by GettingBetter » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:58 pm

Mamagreekx2 wrote:Hello,


I have had a cpap for 8 months. My question is has anyone experienced any access blasting from it? I have been welding out on and off but religiously since Dec 1. I am always bloated and I know it's not from eating or drinking. Just curious to see if anyone else has this problem.
Here's a video that might help - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65JWNBttnE

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Re: Bloating

Post by OkyDoky » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:30 pm

It is called aerophagia or gastric insufflation. I disagree with the LeftyLanky video on tucking your chin. My reasoning for this is the airway sits in front of the esophagus and by putting your chin down you make an easier access to your esophagus. While swallowing may be more difficult gulping air is not the only cause. If you have a weak sphincter a high pressure may cause air to enter your stomach. An airway in a neutral position would be better. A soft cervical collar may help this. There are some general helps here wiki/index.php/Aerophagia and if you need more specific help please lets us know your machine and pressure settings.
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Re: Bloating

Post by Cereal Killer » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:41 pm

OkyDoky wrote:It is called aerophagia or gastric insufflation. I disagree with the LeftyLanky video on tucking your chin. My reasoning for this is the airway sits in front of the esophagus and by putting your chin down you make an easier access to your esophagus. While swallowing may be more difficult gulping air is not the only cause. If you have a weak sphincter a high pressure may cause air to enter your stomach. An airway in a neutral position would be better. A soft cervical collar may help this. There are some general helps here wiki/index.php/Aerophagia and if you need more specific help please lets us know your machine and pressure settings.
+1

I wonder how many people have followed LankyLefty's advice and ended up with a busted disc in their neck?

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Re: Bloating

Post by PetPainter2025 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:59 pm

Hi - I'm new to the forum. Joining out of desperation.
I've had a Resmed Airsense 10. Autoset now for 3 years - after having a sleep study due to snoring. Quite an expensive machine that I have set to ramp up slowly from 4 over 15 minutes and then it varies the pressure according to how it senses I need the pressure to be. It has a soft pressure for each breathe, gradually building up and then dropping off as I exhale. So a good machine.
My problem is gulping air and needing to be up between once and 3 times a night of late, SO bloated, and in pain.
I am 20kg overweight.
I have bad reflux and take Nexium 40 each morning.
I have a full mask and just trying a nose only mask with a chin strap. They both work well, with very few episodes each night.
And I don't snore when using a CPAP machine, otherwise I need to sleep in the spare room.
I'm about to ask for the highest pressure to be lowered, so it can't go over say 9 or 10. As it seems I really don't need high pressure to stop the snoring.
Looking at previous comments it seems that for some people keeping the pressure low is good, and others have said that it can be counter productive.
Can't write much more at the moment - will hop back on later today.
Julie

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Re: Bloating

Post by Ron AKA » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:11 pm

PetPainter2025 wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:59 pm
My problem is gulping air and needing to be up between once and 3 times a night of late, SO bloated, and in pain.
I am 20kg overweight.
You may find this article of interest.

Aerophagia Causes and Resolutions

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Re: Bloating

Post by Julie » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:55 pm

You're confusing the max. pressure setting with the aerophagia effect but they're not related... it's the min. pressure you might try lowering by 1-2 cm... leave the high one high. And don't pay too much attn. to what newbie Ron is selling... it's from who knows where and doesn't necessarily agree with tried and proven help here, any more than other things he's been posting all week.

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Re: Bloating

Post by Wulfman... » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:07 pm

PetPainter2025 wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:59 pm
Hi - I'm new to the forum. Joining out of desperation.
I've had a Resmed Airsense 10. Autoset now for 3 years - after having a sleep study due to snoring. Quite an expensive machine that I have set to ramp up slowly from 4 over 15 minutes and then it varies the pressure according to how it senses I need the pressure to be. It has a soft pressure for each breathe, gradually building up and then dropping off as I exhale. So a good machine.
My problem is gulping air and needing to be up between once and 3 times a night of late, SO bloated, and in pain.
I am 20kg overweight.
I have bad reflux and take Nexium 40 each morning.
I have a full mask and just trying a nose only mask with a chin strap. They both work well, with very few episodes each night.
And I don't snore when using a CPAP machine, otherwise I need to sleep in the spare room.
I'm about to ask for the highest pressure to be lowered, so it can't go over say 9 or 10. As it seems I really don't need high pressure to stop the snoring.
Looking at previous comments it seems that for some people keeping the pressure low is good, and others have said that it can be counter productive.
Can't write much more at the moment - will hop back on later today.
Julie
Sounds like a good plan. Depending what pressures your machine are going to, your swallowing air might be a reflex reaction to higher pressures. You may also experiment with straight pressures (rather than a range) and also turning on or off the EPR, including trying different settings with that, too.
Also, depending on what position you sleep, you might try switching. In other words, if you're sleeping on your back, you might try one side or the other. Or, if you tend to sleep on only one side, you might try sleeping on the other.

Be sure to use software (like "Sleepyhead") to monitor your therapy, if you're not already.

On a personal note, after over 12 years of CPAP therapy, I finally developed some aerophagia late last year and it's been a real challenge to tweak my therapy and sleeping positions to try to alleviate it.
Hang in there. Keep tweaking and you'll figure it out.

If you feel the desire to do your own tweaking (rather than relying on a medical person changing settings), you can download the manual from this link and tweak away.

https://sleep.tnet.com/home/files/resme ... -guide.pdf


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