Help interpreting waveforms

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:12 pm

cby1 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:06 pm
OK, lively debate - I'd like to ask a related question to the original. When I scroll through my wave forms, I notice a phenomenon where the form is flat or nearly so between breaths for less than 10 seconds. This tends to occur in the latter part of my sleep period (which admittedly is not at all consistent these days - that needs to be fixed).

Is there a way to set up a Custom flag in SleepyHead that would flag periods that would be CAs, but are less than 10 seconds? Say something like >5 sec and <10? It would be great to see them in the Events tab and charts in the same way as "regular" events.

Not 100% sure what I would do with that other than to try to structure my sleep time, medications, whatever to try to avoid conditions/periods where there are a lot of them. I sometimes have the sense that I wake from these during very fragmented dreams, take a breath, and have a rapid pulse. If I have a lot of these < 10 sec things, it's probably not helping my cause.

Thanks.

you can change the length of apnea times in preferences, but I think a recording o2 meter would help to show you more. the odds are your o2 levels are going to be fine, and it is just a pause and of no consequence.
I would try a foam cervical collar, to see if it reduces your pressure, it is being talked about it this thread
viewtopic/t158719/Cervical-Collar-Do-yo ... oring.html

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:22 am

cby1 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:50 pm
Thanks guys - will try it out. Any gotchas on the data rebuild?

There shouldn't be. The rebuild is necessary because SH does a two stage interpretation of the data... when you first load in the data, it does a bunch of calculations and stuff, so that when you go browsing through it, it doesn't have to do any slow time consuming stuff to display... but that means if you change a variety of things, that 'pre-calc'd data isn't there to display... like adding the extra flags.

SH makes copies of the raw data as it imports, and that's what it uses to do the rebuild.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am

ajackass wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:53 pm
it seems you also have a reading comprehension issue, would you like to read my post again? I did say the vauto can go to 25. It has cleared it, I don't know if long term it will help. it doesn't alter the point that they could be positional and need less pressure if the airway is open? For me, it's worth trying a collar and seeing.

So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:35 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am
So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?

He edited his boo boo out.

I guess I should have quoted him. Oh well, live and learn.

And...one of the drawbacks to moderator stuff...I can remove people from my Foe list but I can't seem to put anyone on it.
Damn.

And if he was talking about my putting him on my Foe list....well I got just as much right to say stuff here as he does.
If he doesn't like it he can put me on his Foe list and not ready what I say. So there. Stomps foot and walks off.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 am

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:35 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am
So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?
He edited his boo boo out. I guess I should have quoted him. Oh well, live and learn.

There's plenty of others, like where he adamantly declared that remstars are a resmed clone... (I wonder if respironics knows about this)...

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:58 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 am
There's plenty of others, like where he adamantly declared that remstars are a resmed clone... (I wonder if respironics knows about this)..

Yeah, I saw those boo boos too but to me they weren't important enough to call attention to. I looked at those more as a typo thing....the brain and the fingers not working well together. Lord knows mine do it all the time.

I look at it this way...he's got just as much right to his opinion as I do...and we both have the right to disagree and voice that disagreement. He can state is thoughts...I get to state my thoughts and you or anyone else gets to state their thoughts...and the OP in whatever thread gets to decide what they want to do about what was said.

It's the best we can do. I know I am not going to change his mind on anything we differ on....and I am sure he realizes he isn't going to change my mind on anything we differ on. It's the way of life on a forum like this. It's not worth losing sleep over.

cby1 · Post by **cby1** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm

Pulse OX data looks OK every time I check it - also concerned about arousals.

Tried a few foam collars awhile back to lower pressure - the idea makes sense - but didn't seem to change my numbers or lower pressure that dramatically as I recall. Might revisit that, but I think my problem probably has little to do with apnea at this point.

Went back to my old Gecko pad, and that seems to have cut the LL dramatically. The new one I got is thinner, and doesn't seal nearly as well with movement during the night.

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:54 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 am

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:35 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am
So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?
He edited his boo boo out. I guess I should have quoted him. Oh well, live and learn.
There's plenty of others, like where he adamantly declared that remstars are a resmed clone... (I wonder if respironics knows about this)...

Another example of you don't know what you don't know and haven't the ability to find out.
https://www.resmed.com/us/en/consumer/n ... ation.html

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:55 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:35 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am
So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?
He edited his boo boo out. I guess I should have quoted him. Oh well, live and learn.

And...one of the drawbacks to moderator stuff...I can remove people from my Foe list but I can't seem to put anyone on it.
Damn.

And if he was talking about my putting him on my Foe list....well I got just as much right to say stuff here as he does.
If he doesn't like it he can put me on his Foe list and not ready what I say. So there. Stomps foot and walks off.

yes, it wasn't clear that I wasn't referring to you and was directed to palerider. A long time poster here. But dumb is dumb, no mater the time spent. I recall the trilogy and triggers settings.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:10 pm

ajackass wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:54 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 am

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:35 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 am
So, you want the moderator to add you to the ignore list... how 'bout she does us a big favor and just bans you?
He edited his boo boo out. I guess I should have quoted him. Oh well, live and learn.
There's plenty of others, like where he adamantly declared that remstars are a resmed clone... (I wonder if respironics knows about this)...
Another example of you don't know what you don't know and haven't the ability to find out.
https://www.resmed.com/us/en/consumer/n ... ation.html

please to be pointing out where the term "remstar" is mentioned in your latest irrelevant link...
See, Pugsy, it's not a 'booboo' it's ignorance. well, no, ignorance can be cured...

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:32 pm

You will have to give me original post, clone would have been in context to BMC and resmart. Remstar isn't what I would have meant to have been referring to. It may have been a typo on my part.

Edit, found it, it was a typo, I gave a BMC link to the 3b resmart titration, and said remstar, sorry for the confusion and not picking it up. But I may have been an obvious mistake to some people, given the BMC link that went with it.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 pm

ajackass wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:32 pm
You will have to give me original post, clone would have been in context to BMC and resmart. Remstar isn't what I would have meant to have been referring to. It may have been a typo on my part.

"may have been"?

Well done. Two days, and multiple hints, and you finally figured out that what you were saying "may have been" inaccurate, because you don't take the time, or care, to be accurate.

And, if you're suggesting that I need to link you back to YOUR 'may have been' post, which I pointed out at the time... then...

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:27 pm

Yes, I acknowledge my mistake with remstar and resmart. It doesn't alter the auto titration, mean, 95% and max pressures that were given, by mayo and the BMC manufactuer, which would indicate which machine I meant.
Remember this started with saying that using this data is a rookie move. Something that is easily disproven.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:52 pm

ajackass wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:27 pm
Yes, I acknowledge my mistake with remstar and resmart. It doesn't alter the auto titration, mean, 95% and max pressures that were given, by mayo and the BMC manufactuer, which would indicate which machine I meant.
Remember this started with saying that using this data is a rookie move. Something that is easily disproven.

And yet, you fail to understand that those "rules of thumb" are suggested when detailed data isn't available. Something that's stated clearly in one of your own cited links, that you even quoted, without comprehension.

ajack · Post by **ajack** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:22 am

You are referring to the BMC self titrating link?
Did you even attempt to read the other couple of links, It seems I don't even have to post more. The mayo used apap in attended polysomnography, so they had a bit more than sleepyhead.

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