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Re: Which way did you sleep better?

Postby Mark55 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:55 pm

Pugsy wrote:Ahhh....I understand now.

You know if anything the poor sleep would be more likely to have given you a false negative than a false positive....or maybe under valued your AHI of 16 meaning if you had got more sleep/better sleep it might have been higher.

The criteria needed to earn a flag is pretty cut and dry and it's unlikely that the sleep aid would have maybe made the apnea events "worse".
Sleep aids don't change the patency of the airway and are quite commonly dispensed to help people get some sort of sleep in the foreign environment of whatever sleep lab you might be in.

So false positives are exceedingly rare and I can't see that happening. Now a false negative because of poor sleep I can see happening fairly easily.

Now is the sleep apnea the cause of your unwanted symptoms...dunno. It might be and it might not.
Is the poor sleep because of mask or machine comfort issues worse than the sleep apnea sleep??? That's the million dollar question isn't it?


It certainly is, and one I intend on getting an answer to. My 'cash' machine should be here tomorrow, and I plan on setting it up and starting again by Wednesday night. I also am going to get to work on a recording oximeter, as that is what is most important to me,....am I having desats, or not?

Obviously I am not like most, in that I seem to be able to sleep just fine with OSA,...or so it appears.

If I find I am experiencing desat events, it will be quite the shock since I have zero symptoms of such,....save for the fatigue. I should probably add that my ortho doc thinks my late afternoon/evening fatigue is from functioning in constant pain all day, and has nothing to do with sleep apnea. I have some really bad issues with my back, and neck, but am trying to stall surgery as long as I can. I refuse to take pain meds also.

It is what it is.

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Re: Which way did you sleep better?

Postby Pugsy on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:05 pm

As someone with chronic back/neck issues myself I also understand poor sleep quality from pain.
It's something I have dealt with the entire 8 plus years I have been on cpap and why I also understand that nice low AHI numbers don't always mean that we feel them. We have 2 issues messing with our restorative sleep and the sleep apnea part is the easiest to fix. :lol:

Good luck to you and when/if you need help once you get setup to DIY this cpap stuff we will be here for support if needed.

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Re: Which way did you sleep better?

Postby Mark55 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:16 pm

Pugsy wrote:As someone with chronic back/neck issues myself I also understand poor sleep quality from pain.
It's something I have dealt with the entire 8 plus years I have been on cpap and why I also understand that nice low AHI numbers don't always mean that we feel them. We have 2 issues messing with our restorative sleep and the sleep apnea part is the easiest to fix. :lol:

Good luck to you and when/if you need help once you get setup to DIY this cpap stuff we will be here for support if needed.

Thank you, and I wish you luck with your issues as well. :wink:

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Re: Which way did you sleep better?

Postby Julie on Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:29 pm

FYI - they make you sleep on your back to get a baseline reading of the potentially worst scenario - backsleeping provokes more events in everyone and side sleeping is otherwise encouraged... they weren't so dumb, just doing their jobs.

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Re: Which way did you sleep better?

Postby Mark55 on Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:45 am

Julie wrote:FYI - they make you sleep on your back to get a baseline reading of the potentially worst scenario - backsleeping provokes more events in everyone and side sleeping is otherwise encouraged... they weren't so dumb, just doing their jobs.

I understand the back position, and that is how I sleep most often anyway. I disagreed fully with the 1" thick pancake pillow, as that is not real world to me.

Why test someone in a situation they will never encounter?

Also, when sleep techs walk up and down the hall of a sleep center yelling at one another at 2 am,....sorry, they're not too bright.

Since you seem to need more evidence, I will add that I had to show one tech how to place the ecg electrodes,....she forgot 'for a moment' what the color code/location was. I stand solidly by my "Dumb as a box of rocks" comment.

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