SpO2 93-95.. add oxygen concentrator to xpap?

Guest wrote:

raisedfist wrote:

Guest wrote:

raisedfist wrote:What is your point? No one here is saying that oxygen saturation dropping to abnormal levels,

Exactly the point so why would he need O2? You never asked what his level was dropping to.

why would i? he tells us right in the title of this thread

Re: SpO2 93-95.. add oxygen concentrator to xpap?

afaik 93-95 is within normal limits esp. when sleeping.
So what is your point? Why add O2? Please do tell.

I never said he should. Reread my posts.

raisedfist wrote:

Guest wrote: afaik 93-95 is within normal limits esp. when sleeping.
So what is your point? Why add O2? Please do tell.

I never said he should. Reread my posts.

Neither did I. Read my posts.

Guest wrote:

raisedfist wrote:

Guest wrote: afaik 93-95 is within normal limits esp. when sleeping.
So what is your point? Why add O2? Please do tell.

I never said he should. Reread my posts.

Neither did I. Read my posts.

I said it was normal for oxygen saturation to be a bit lower while sleeping than while awake.

You said:

"Why would you think that is so?

I don't believe that is true unless you have something wrong.

Doublev what is you O2 level at right now when sleeping? Is your cpap therapy effective?"

Unless you were responding to someone else - then I guess are back and forth is pointless lol.

raisedfist wrote:
Doublev what is you O2 level at right now when sleeping? Is your cpap therapy effective?"

Unless you were responding to someone else - then I guess are back and forth is pointless lol.

I am at a 93-95 during the day. It is a little low. I can compare to my wife who is 97.
I measured once moments after sleeping amd it was 88.

I think these numbers do not warrant medical need for oxygen but I also do not think they are ideal.

a doctor may or may not prescribe a comcentrator. I would buy one out of pocket like i did my bilevel equipment.

Cpap therapy is highly effective but it takes nothing to add oxygen to it (you literally plug a hose into the existing cpap hose). I know a few extra points of oxygen is good for me. But too much would not be. I wanted to see if anyone has done this in a similar situation.

I looked online and there are concentrators sold for recreational use.. they seem to produce less oxygen and are very noisy but the reviews are good (besides the noise). I would not buy one of these. I would buy a medical grade one.

I dont want to harm myself or do something to get high or for fun. I just want to improve quality of rest to the maximum.

first get the cpap working with sleepyhead and get your ahi right. Get a recording cms50f off ebay from china for $50, do an overnight study with it and see your o2 levels. That would be good enough to tell you if you need to see a doctor. I still would see a lung doctor before I used one. There may be other issues.

given 93-95 is you're awake and you have seen 88 just dozing, I think a lung doctor and an overnight titration would be the best outcome

ajack wrote:first get the cpap working with sleepyhead and get your ahi right. Get a recording cms50f off ebay from china for $50, do an overnight study with it and see your o2 levels. That would be good enough to tell you if you need to see a doctor. I still would see a lung doctor before I used one. There may be other issues.

given 93-95 is you're awake and you have seen 88 just dozing, I think a lung doctor and an overnight titration would be the best outcome

Yes your doc can order an overnite O2 or you can do it yourself (OR BOTH). If I saw a doc I would prefer a pulmonary doc myself.

The SH suggestion is excellent as I don't think your (the OPs) therapy is effective IF you measured your O2 at 88 AFTER sleeping w/cpap. IF it was w/o cpap that could explain a lot.

Doublev wrote:Cpap therapy is highly effective but it takes nothing to add oxygen to it (you literally plug a hose into the existing cpap hose).

I know it takes nothing to add O2 to your cpap but that is not something I would really want to do. Your cpap should be adequately providing the O2 you need if/when adjusted properly AND you have no other health issues.

Doublev wrote: I looked online and there are concentrators sold for recreational use.. they seem to produce less oxygen and are very noisy but the reviews are good (besides the noise). I would not buy one of these. I would buy a medical grade one.

Continuous flow oxygen concentrators are pretty noisy, period. If you haven't tried sleeping with one in the room, you may want to find out more about that before purchasing.

Doublev wrote:

raisedfist wrote:
Doublev what is you O2 level at right now when sleeping? Is your cpap therapy effective?"

Unless you were responding to someone else - then I guess are back and forth is pointless lol.

I am at a 93-95 during the day. It is a little low. I can compare to my wife who is 97.
I measured once moments after sleeping amd it was 88.

I think these numbers do not warrant medical need for oxygen but I also do not think they are ideal.

a doctor may or may not prescribe a comcentrator. I would buy one out of pocket like i did my bilevel equipment.

Cpap therapy is highly effective but it takes nothing to add oxygen to it (you literally plug a hose into the existing cpap hose). I know a few extra points of oxygen is good for me. But too much would not be. I wanted to see if anyone has done this in a similar situation.

I looked online and there are concentrators sold for recreational use.. they seem to produce less oxygen and are very noisy but the reviews are good (besides the noise). I would not buy one of these. I would buy a medical grade one.

I dont want to harm myself or do something to get high or for fun. I just want to improve quality of rest to the maximum.

I've been using O2 for years in my XPAP, I haven't got high from it, what am I doing wrong? Am I forgetting to light the crack pipe before I go to sleep, Maybe the XPAP Data doesn't list the problem.

May My Weed is to old. Jim

Maybe your weed has wilted.

TASmart wrote:Maybe your weed has wilted.

CouldI use my So Not So clean to dry it out? Jim

VinnieBarbarino wrote: Continuous flow oxygen concentrators are pretty noisy, period. If you haven't tried sleeping with one in the room, you may want to find out more about that before purchasing.

They are advertised as 40-43db? That is pretty quiet?

Doublev wrote:

VinnieBarbarino wrote: Continuous flow oxygen concentrators are pretty noisy, period. If you haven't tried sleeping with one in the room, you may want to find out more about that before purchasing.

They are advertised as 40-43db? That is pretty quiet?

I think that depends on whether or not you can sleep with a TV or radio on.
But for most people w/OSA all they have to do is stop moving then sleep just happens. It's multi-tasking at a traffic light <g>

VinnieBarbarino wrote:Continuous flow oxygen concentrators are pretty noisy, period. If you haven't tried sleeping with one in the room, you may want to find out more about that before purchasing.

I agree they are noisy. I used one for almost a year until I finally got my bipap machine. This was the only time I was happy to be hard of hearing. Once I got my hearing aids out, it did not sound too bad. They did furnish a 50 foot tube to use if I needed to place the concentrator in a different room due to the noise.

3db is double the volume, do the maths of a cpap at 28 db to the o2 at 40db

I know people who have had testicular cancer chemotherapy and can't have pure oxygen as it could destroy their lungs (eg. quit functioning at once). If went to a hospital/er room and would say it is contradicted everyone would look like them when they were crazy until they explained it (even then I am not sure they understood but at least they wrote it down). However diluted (how it comes in a cpap) is not the same thing as pressurized 100% oxygen (eg. airplane oxygen would be ok in an emergency situation, just hold the mask close to the face not resting on the face, it so it is diluted - yeah don't ask me how far - it is a fire vs frying pan thing, try and stay between the not getting enough oxygen and getting too much).

I talked to a fire chief several years ago and he said they used to say (EMTs) give everyone oxygen as it can't hurt them.
They now know it can. If there is a brain bleed (injury, Aneurysm, etc.) it can increase the brain bleed (not good).
They were learning of other situations oxygen could cause more problems than good.
So they don't just give O2 anymore.

That said, my thinking would be why not make it better. (I am not saying this is good thinking, just saying this is how I think).
But since Drs think 95 is good, I use that as a marker and I would think your numbers were pretty good.

YMMV (your mileage may vary).