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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:18 pm

xxyzx wrote:with so many CAs i would be cautious abuot raising the pressure
they were clearly worse than the OA
fixing the small OA could make the CAs much worse
Which just illustrates your ignorance.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:25 pm

SWJ Sleep/Wake/Junk

Awake breathing that gets flagged and it really doesn't count because you were awake.

Some examples here
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=114600&p=1110933#p1110933

If you remember being awake and having coughing spells last night it is very possible that the centrals flagged last night are nothing more than SWJ from the coughing. When we cough we sure aren't breathing regularly and remember the machine only measures air flow. It doesn't have anyway to know that your coughing is creating irregular air flow. It just calls it like it sees it and sometimes it doesn't see clearly.
xxyzx wrote:the machine does not call them centrals
Incorrect
ResMed S9 machines most definitely calls them centrals. ResScan will call them centrals. OP in this thread is using a ResMed machine.
SleepyHead calls them Clear Airway because that's what Respironics calls them and the guy who came up with SleepyHead was using a Respironics machine. Clear Airway cessation of breathing....central...the airway is open but no air is moving.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by lliann » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:36 pm

Still playing around to see where sh info is and settings. Found this first page . Does this explain the 7.61 ahis?
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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:41 pm

xxyzx wrote:clear airway is shown on your chart and may be centrals
the machine does not call them centrals
You are patently wrong about this. Her machine *DOES* call them centrals, Sleepyhead uses the other manufacturers made up name.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:42 pm

Yeah, the summary shows the Clear Airway/Central Index.
It was just missing on your Events graph and the AHI bar graph index which shows OA, hyponea and UA but no CA.
Now why it was missing I have no idea except that the Flag was turned off which you say it wasn't.

Don't worry about it unless this persists and the event categories continue not to add up to the total AHI. This could be a fluke bug.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:43 pm

xxyzx wrote:
palerider wrote:
xxyzx wrote:with so many CAs i would be cautious abuot raising the pressure
they were clearly worse than the OA
fixing the small OA could make the CAs much worse
Which just illustrates your ignorance.
===

you are the gift that keeps on giving

it is pressure that causes centrals
go tell my doctor he is wrong and leave me out of this
Your alleged doctor isn't the one that's spreading this mis-information, you are, ergo, you're the heart of this.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:45 pm

Pugsy wrote:
xxyzx wrote:the machine does not call them centrals
Incorrect
ResMed S9 machines most definitely calls them centrals. ResScan will call them centrals. OP in this thread is using a ResMed machine.
SleepyHead calls them Clear Airway because that's what Respironics calls them and the guy who came up with SleepyHead was using a Respironics machine. Clear Airway cessation of breathing....central...the airway is open but no air is moving.
Another *CLEAR* and *OBVIOUS* place where alphabetboy stated something wrong.

Another instance that he'll no doubt ignore in his continued false assertion that he's always right.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:48 pm

Pugsy wrote:Hey PR...where else do we turn on category flagging besides the lower left Flag area? She says that CA is green but they sure aren't showing up.
file/preferences/events 'clear airway' could be unchecked.
Pugsy wrote:I know where PR is going with the idea to reduce PS though...there's a very small percentage of people who get centrals simply from bilevel pressures and his idea is worth trying.
I personally know one person who gets around 15 Centrals per hour with PS of 4 but maybe 1 per hour with PS of 3...go figure that one.
Surprised the heck out of me when I saw it for my own eyes.
Yup. It's an easy thing to check for.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:57 pm

palerider wrote:Another *CLEAR* and *OBVIOUS* place where alphabetboy stated something wrong.

Another instance that he'll no doubt ignore in his continued false assertion that he's always right.
Yep.
I wouldn't even have seen it except it showed up when I hit submit since he posted after I started composing and I didn't see what he said but when it pops up so and so posted something before you posted, I didn't have much choice and it was such an obvious error I couldn't let it slide.

OP is confused enough with all this new stuff she is trying to wrap her head around without having to sort through his garbage too.
The "pressure causes centrals" I didn't go into because I had already covered that...yes pressure can cause the unstable breathing that results in centrals but it isn't the only cause of centrals. So another example of a correct but incomplete statement he is spewing.

Didn't take long for his good behavior to devolve did it? Spends more time making excuses and calling us names than he does anything else.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by lliann » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:22 pm

palerider wrote:
Pugsy wrote:Hey PR...where else do we turn on category flagging besides the lower left Flag area? She says that CA is green but they sure aren't showing up.
file/preferences/events 'clear airway' could be unchecked.
Pugsy wrote:I know where PR is going with the idea to reduce PS though...there's a very small percentage of people who get centrals simply from bilevel pressures and his idea is worth trying.
I personally know one person who gets around 15 Centrals per hour with PS of 4 but maybe 1 per hour with PS of 3...go figure that one.
Surprised the heck out of me when I saw it for my own eyes.
Yup. It's an easy thing to check for.


looked under preferences, looked under file. Maybe because my sh is for Mac it is different? Under preferences all items are checked (including centrals)/ All my flags are green and all my event flags are green.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:42 pm

lliann wrote:
palerider wrote:
Pugsy wrote:Hey PR...where else do we turn on category flagging besides the lower left Flag area? She says that CA is green but they sure aren't showing up.
file/preferences/events 'clear airway' could be unchecked.
Pugsy wrote:I know where PR is going with the idea to reduce PS though...there's a very small percentage of people who get centrals simply from bilevel pressures and his idea is worth trying.
I personally know one person who gets around 15 Centrals per hour with PS of 4 but maybe 1 per hour with PS of 3...go figure that one.
Surprised the heck out of me when I saw it for my own eyes.
Yup. It's an easy thing to check for.


looked under preferences, looked under file. Maybe because my sh is for Mac it is different? Under preferences all items are checked (including centrals)/ All my flags are green and all my event flags are green.
You can upload your entire zipped up SD card to https://www.dropbox.com/request/0LalWvEsijRIgX8sdM7H if you like and I can take a look at it, make sure it's working here.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by lliann » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:03 pm

palerider wrote:
lliann wrote:
palerider wrote:
Pugsy wrote:Hey PR...where else do we turn on category flagging besides the lower left Flag area? She says that CA is green but they sure aren't showing up.
file/preferences/events 'clear airway' could be unchecked.
Pugsy wrote:I know where PR is going with the idea to reduce PS though...there's a very small percentage of people who get centrals simply from bilevel pressures and his idea is worth trying.
I personally know one person who gets around 15 Centrals per hour with PS of 4 but maybe 1 per hour with PS of 3...go figure that one.
Surprised the heck out of me when I saw it for my own eyes.
Yup. It's an easy thing to check for.


looked under preferences, looked under file. Maybe because my sh is for Mac it is different? Under preferences all items are checked (including centrals)/ All my flags are green and all my event flags are green.
You can upload your entire zipped up SD card to https://www.dropbox.com/request/0LalWvEsijRIgX8sdM7H if you like and I can take a look at it, make sure it's working here.
Sounds great. (gulp, how do I do that.?) Do I compress all my screenshots? or is there a particular file that has everything (I am ermbarassed as I know this is a dumb question but computerese is not my first language.)

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Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:33 pm

You would need to compress/zip the entire SD card and upload it. I don't know the steps to do that on the Mac.

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Post by palerider » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:15 pm

lliann wrote:Sounds great. (gulp, how do I do that.?) Do I compress all my screenshots? or is there a particular file that has everything (I am ermbarassed as I know this is a dumb question but computerese is not my first language.)
Not screenshots.. *JUST* the raw data that's on your SD card, I'll load it into sleepyhead here and see if it all looks good.

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Re: help interpreting my sh graphs.

Post by lliann » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:25 am

palerider wrote:
lliann wrote:
palerider wrote:
Pugsy wrote:Hey PR...where else do we turn on category flagging besides the lower left Flag area? She says that CA is green but they sure aren't showing up.
file/preferences/events 'clear airway' could be unchecked.
Pugsy wrote:I know where PR is going with the idea to reduce PS though...there's a very small percentage of people who get centrals simply from bilevel pressures and his idea is worth trying.
I personally know one person who gets around 15 Centrals per hour with PS of 4 but maybe 1 per hour with PS of 3...go figure that one.
Surprised the heck out of me when I saw it for my own eyes.
Yup. It's an easy thing to check for.


looked under preferences, looked under file. Maybe because my sh is for Mac it is different? Under preferences all items are checked (including centrals)/ All my flags are green and all my event flags are green.
You can upload your entire zipped up SD card to https://www.dropbox.com/request/0LalWvEsijRIgX8sdM7H if you like and I can take a look at it, make sure it's working here.
I would like to but I can't yet figure out where the sd drive is on my mac machine. I will keep looking. Thank you.

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